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  • #81
    Originally posted by sebastianb7312 View Post
    I respect JMM, a true warrior, this guy got robbed, I know your supposed to beat the champion decisively but cmon he didn't lose by that crazy point spread. I think JMM won by a point at least...If not a draw.. A 4rth fight is gna be a war, JMM knows not to engage with pacroid, he uses his counter attack to create an offense so precise that it has Pacroid all shook up... If Pacroid and Arum thought Manny won than why a fourth fight, obviously because they know he lost !
    i don't know what's so crazy about the point spread.

    115-113 is only 1 round from being a draw.

    116-112 is 2.

    meaning if the judge just had 2 rounds different , it would have been a draw.


    2 rounds.

    that fight had half a dozen rounds that could have gone either way tbh.

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    • #82
      While JMM probably won the last fight in the eyes of ..

      ..most boxing fans including myself...the fourth fight must happen for Pacmans benefit...and if the fourth fight happens, it's pretty much predictable who's going to come out on top. JMM's only strong point is his counter punching ability while on the retreat..all Pacman needs to do is not go after JMM and let Marquez initiate the attack. Since Pacman's an aggressive fighter, he tends to go in and against a master counter puncher like JMM, he will make you pay if you make a mistake. Just like Pac's past fight with Oscar,Hatton,Cotto and Margarito, they were all trying to KO Pac, and they all paid for doing just that. Same thing happened between Pac/JMM....you just can't do that to a great fighter...assuming Pac didn't try to make other boxers believe that he's not as good and powerful as we all know,it was probably a ploy to lure the other p4p king. Part 3 reminds me of Jr/Castillo 1, which I thought Jr lost..In boxing crazy outcome just happens and it is what it is. What makes number 3 fight so su****ious to me was, JMM landed soild right, not just once but multiple times, those punches usually KO's guys while he was a light weight and after all those build-up that JMM did..Pac still walk though him and didn't even got hurt by those vicious KO punches, Pac took those punches just like it was just, jabs. Pac's face was the the same face before and after the fight.
      Arum and Pac are planning something big next year.....they will probably sign a fight with JMM and Jr. at the same time...If I were JMM...I'd walked away with the loss, a loss better than all his past wins...there were late rounds that
      JMM looked like he's going to get KO'd but Manny pulled back...JMM needs to keep that in mind....before he signs a another fight with Manny.

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      • #83
        Originally posted by Brooklyn Iceman View Post
        ..most boxing fans including myself...the fourth fight must happen for Pacmans benefit...and if the fourth fight happens, it's pretty much predictable who's going to come out on top. JMM's only strong point is his counter punching ability while on the retreat..all Pacman needs to do is not go after JMM and let Marquez initiate the attack. Since Pacman's an aggressive fighter, he tends to go in and against a master counter puncher like JMM, he will make you pay if you make a mistake. Just like Pac's past fight with Oscar,Hatton,Cotto and Margarito, they were all trying to KO Pac, and they all paid for doing just that. Same thing happened between Pac/JMM....you just can't do that to a great fighter...assuming Pac didn't try to make other boxers believe that he's not as good and powerful as we all know,it was probably a ploy to lure the other p4p king. Part 3 reminds me of Jr/Castillo 1, which I thought Jr lost..In boxing crazy outcome just happens and it is what it is. What makes number 3 fight so su****ious to me was, JMM landed soild right, not just once but multiple times, those punches usually KO's guys while he was a light weight and after all those build-up that JMM did..Pac still walk though him and didn't even got hurt by those vicious KO punches, Pac took those punches just like it was just, jabs. Pac's face was the the same face before and after the fight.
        Arum and Pac are planning something big next year.....they will probably sign a fight with JMM and Jr. at the same time...If I were JMM...I'd walked away with the loss, a loss better than all his past wins...there were late rounds that
        JMM looked like he's going to get KO'd but Manny pulled back...JMM needs to keep that in mind....before he signs a another fight with Manny.
        i think that's was pac/roach planned to do last saturday.

        that's why pac wasn't as aggressive as he was in the 1st 2.

        they tried to do that plan.

        it didn't work. jmm just got comfortable and was fighting at a pace that benefitted him.


        boxer-punching a boxer doesn't work.

        jmm is technically superior to pac.

        pac's superiority is in his natural skills. power , speed , etc.


        pac needs to learn how to be a pressure fighter against jmm.

        get inside , stay inside , work the body , wear him down......

        that in and out bull**** doesn't work on jmm.

        jmm just times him coming in. all pac is doing with that in and out crap is giving jmm more chances to tag him coming in.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Pacman View Post
          His demands are very reasonable if he got rid of that one demand trying to make the 3rd fight an NC, and it sounds like he doesn't want that demand anymore. I'd be interest in a 4rth match, actually intrigues me more than Manny/Floyd at this point.

          If the fight happens before Manny/Floyd, I think winner of Manny/Marquez should fight Mayweather Jr. So that means if Marquez wins 4rth fight, I think he should have a rematch against Mayweather Jr.

          This is just my opinion on what should happen.




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          • #85
            Originally posted by FloydPacquiaoJr View Post
            Marquez wont win the 4th fight

            pac already figured him out,
            FINALLY.....after 7 years and 3 fights?

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            • #86
              Originally posted by SlimTim View Post
              All of Manny's fights with Marquez were close and could've gone either way. I guess you forgot how Floyd barely got by De La Hoya and Pacquiao annihilated him, and how Floyd struggled in the early rounds with Hatton who Manny whiped out early. There's no question that Manny faced a better version of Marquez in any of their fights than Floyd fought, and you should know styles make fights, and that just because Manny struggled to beat Marquez and Floyd shut him out does not mean that Floyd is a better fighter. As long as they both continue to win than it's an argument that can only be settled in the ring.

              I find this funny that whenever someone speaks on the Mayweather-De La Hoya fight they always revert back to the token....."Oscar would have won if he kep throwing the jab AFTER the 6th round"..........well boys & girls I am here to end all of that madness and lame message board rhetoric

              Surprisingly, Floyd had the edge in jabs landed 69-40, throwing 240 to Oscar’s 246.

              Oscar landed just 4 of 77 jabs in rounds 10-12, after landing 31 out of 124 jabs in rounds 6-9.....lol

              Lets to the math....124+77= 201.....so after the 6th round...Oscar threw 201 Jabs.....he threw 45 jabs in the first 5 rounds......

              So TRUTH BE TOLD Oscar actually threw MORE Jabs after the 6th round than he did before the 6th round....lol...

              PUNCH STATS: De La Hoya landed 122 of 587 total punches (21%) to 207 of 481 (43%) for Mayweather. De La Hoya was also busier but less accurate with his power punches, landing 82 of 341 (24%) to 138 of 241 power punches (57%) for Mayweather.

              Thats all folks!
              Last edited by Cash Cow; 11-16-2011, 06:04 PM.

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              • #87
                4th fight useless.

                it will be the same thing..............

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                • #88
                  That will be Pac's game plan....

                  ..in case the 4th fight do happen...stay patient and let JMM come in and initiate the fight...do you think that will favor the great JMM? chase Pac all night...
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  i think that's was pac/roach planned to do last saturday.

                  that's why pac wasn't as aggressive as he was in the 1st 2.

                  they tried to do that plan.

                  it didn't work. jmm just got comfortable and was fighting at a pace that benefitted him.


                  boxer-punching a boxer doesn't work.

                  jmm is technically superior to pac.

                  pac's superiority is in his natural skills. power , speed , etc.


                  pac needs to learn how to be a pressure fighter against jmm.

                  get inside , stay inside , work the body , wear him down......

                  that in and out bull**** doesn't work on jmm.

                  jmm just times him coming in. all pac is doing with that in and out crap is giving jmm more chances to tag him coming in.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by lopez36 View Post
                    what did you expect him to say? that he lost? get real man,,,ariza and roach even said manny wasn't happy and that he wants the rematch,i hope marquez says no,he won't get the decision,period
                    I was answering to another question with that post. I dont think he will get a decision either and i hope he says no too. JMM 8-4

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Brooklyn Iceman View Post
                      ..in case the 4th fight do happen...stay patient and let JMM come in and initiate the fight...do you think that will favor the great JMM? chase Pac all night...
                      you think jmm is ****** enough to chase pac?

                      no.


                      jmm is the better boxer. the more technical boxer.

                      any type of boxing match favors him.

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