Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: After Floyd KO's Pacquiao, 'Marquez 4' Still There

[Reloaded]

Ok can you answer the rest of my post cause I've said it like ten times and none of you Floyd fanatics have given me your view about why is he not saying to "TAKE THE TEST!" when they didn't have any new negotiations. He's been saying testing isn't an issue for a year, pacquiao in a video interview said that he wanted "to see if it's really what it was" the testing issue. He didn't negotiate anything new so why is it NOW THAT HE'S NOT SAYING TAKE THE TEST. Maybe cause pacquiao looked ****ty Saturday night?? Logical!

Do you guys see my point that just last week the same Floyd riders were saying for pacquiao to take the test but now they're all saying that it's not an issue but Floyd and manny didn't negotiate nothing new? That there proves testing wasn't an issue for a long time because it's been agreed upon for a long time.

He is not saying dont take the test , the testing in a non issue now because Arum has said publicly the OST testing is agreed to , it doesnt have to be negotiated as Arum has made it public that they agree , so why would Floyd now say dont take the test ,, I can assure Floyd will NOT drop testing , he cant if even if he wanted too , its gont too far for that , but it dont matter Arum has agreed to it

I dont know what your trying to get at .

[Laborer]

Leonard Ellerbe, adviser to WBC welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr., doesn't see a reason for Manny Pacquiao to stage an immediate fourth fight with Juan Manuel Marquez. Last Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Pacquaio won a controversial twelve round majority decision over Marquez. Mayweather plans to fight on May 5 at the MGM Grand, and negotiations for a Pacquiao fight were set to begin, but now the Filipino superstar and his promotional team, Top Rank, are going to pursue a fourth clash with Marquez instead.

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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for PROPER drug test, but FLoyd could take this Pcroid to school easily with all the freaking roids in the world for Pac to wallow in. It's time that the world is shown what the sweet science is really all about, SKILLS, not the bar-brawl level that we see in the current P4P king(?).

[t2xspgs]

Why would Marquez want to fight Pacquiao again? To be robbed again? This time was the worst, it's not even worth him pursuing that. If Pac in his right mind goes to fight Marquez again, for one it won't make bread. For two, it would definitely be ducking Mayweather.

Who the **** wants to see that fight again? Marquez doesn't have enough speed, stamina, and punching power to KO Manny. So all we'll see is the same ****. Even if Marquez outboxes Manny(Like he did Saturday), it won't be enough to win the fight. They aren't going to just hand him the title and a decision victory over the " anointed " p4p king.

Who keeps saying testing is not an issue? Bob Arum? You idiots believe that? If testing wasn't the ****ing issue, the fight would be done already. Pacquiao is a *****. He doesn't want to take the test too close to the fight. Now you want to tell me all of a sudden that Pacquiao and his camp will magically agree to all the testing demands? The question is if they actually do agree to it(which I dont believe they will at this time), what the **** stopped them the first time?

Floyd changed his stance. He wanted testing all the way up to the night of the fight. Pacquiao's camp wanted a 24 day cutoff. Floyd then came back with a 14 day cutoff. It's like what the hell difference does it make? Why would you need 24 days of no testing before the fight? If I was Floyd I wouldn't back down from my demands. I'd make Pacquiao take random blood test up until the night of the fight.

If he disagrees, then the world clearly knows he's doing some **** he's not supposed. Because Ortiz and Mosley took the test and Mayweather has to take the same test at the same time. So either he's juicing, or he's not. It's no reason to even argue this **** anymore. If I was a boxer and I had a 50 million dollar fight on the table, and all I had to do was take a blood test until the fight, what would I be afraid of? Unless of course I was taking some illegal substance I didn't want them to find. There is no other excuse on why I wouldn't take the test.

For Arum and Pacquiao's team to even speak on a 4th fight with Marquez just shows how they dont give a **** about the fans of boxing. Everyone wants to see Floyd vs Pacquiao. Not Marquez vs Pacquiao for a 4th time. It was something that shouldn't even be mentioned as a possibility, but these clowns brought it up. Which shows what kind of people they are.

[tudedude]

the steroid allegation and drug test demands by floyd was a clear duck. This time we have a clear duck by pac.

Although I think Pac won the 3rd fight with JMM, I have no more doubt in my mind that Mayweather beats Pacman.

[jtiger777]

If the two divas ever actually fight, there is absolutely no way Pac is getting KO'd by Floyd. I've seen people running with this line since Saturday but it's not happening.

Wide decision? Yes.

KO? No.

Manny's chin is fantastic. If Cotto, Margs and Mosley couldn't hurt him, there's no way Floyd is KOing him.

But aside from that, Buboy's Twin is right. It's time for Pac to fight Floyd now.

maybe a stoppage????

[The Big Dunn]

drop your garbage test floyd , if you really want to fight....no need to play games anymore........

Puga if there are no issues with testing, why does floyd have to drop the request for a fight to happen?

[V.WEBB]

Puga if there are no issues with testing, why does floyd have to drop the request for a fight to happen?

Bare with him. He just rattles off at the mouth.

[D4thincarnation]

Bare with him. He just rattles off at the mouth.

Maybe Manny has taken that of the table now.

I know who would do a thing like that?

[The Big Dunn]

Maybe Manny has taken that of the table now.

I know who would do a thing like that?

You, puga and some other manny fans must really be going through it now. I feel for you. Manny has no reason not to tell bob to make the fight now, unless he purposely looked bad to set up a 4th fight, which is not something someone you guys say is so honorable would do.

Manny can fight 2x in 2012. Floyd then JMM. Its a win win for him. But now his fans don't want to see the floyd fight. I wonder why?

[V.WEBB]

Maybe Manny has taken that of the table now.

I know who would do a thing like that?

Let's try to make sense here.