Comments Thread For: Ellerbe: After Floyd KO's Pacquiao, 'Marquez 4' Still There

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Manny Pacquiao has been exposed and there is nothing no one can do or say about it. Dude got beat by someone he was supposed to breeze by according to the whole world. The same fighter that Floyd toyed with at times. Floyd would beat Pac up until Roach and Arum himself jumped in to save him.

[bayareamike]

you are not coming from a logical perspective your coming from a ******* point of view thats rife with crappy information. 1st roach said they already knew floyd wanted ost BEFOREthey started negotiating and said it wouldnt be a problem. also pac asked for outrageous items to the contract 10million per pound over wt. even though pac came in for two of his fights over the contracted wt(but u dont know this because your a fan of one man)
and how come when pac was asked did he want to fight floyd he said" ask bob arum" and dont forget who WALKED AWAY FROM THE FIRST TALKS and said we'll fight in court not in the ring. and about testing, pacs camp said no problem with testing and when pressed they said "unlimited urine testing and blood testing with a 14 day cut off" they wobble on the issue so much the pac camp dont know the answer. buboy was just quoted as saying issues with ost. and arum accused usada of being on floyds pay role. and floyd is STILL saying all who fight him MUST under go ost. and floyd has always said "easy work" the only ones that thought differently were you and a few under cover *******s. REAL boxing fans looked at pacs record and who he has fought and didnt fight. and the 1st 2 fights with JMM and said floyd beats this dude with ease. only now you and your ilk see what real boxing fans knew all along. we knew how a floyd vs pac fight would end. the same as the last 42 for floyd. so when you come in here get your facts str8. you can go to fight hype and get a time line of the negotiations and you will see 98%of your post is wrong. Dedication posted a link some time ago. *******s are crying hard.LOL

Lol fight hype. Slap yourself. No Floyd never said he wanted ost til they already started negotiations go get your facts right or get me a link dumbass.

Yea he asked 10 mil cause your dude Floyd didn't come into the Marquez fight at the CONTRACYED WEIGHT YOU ****ING DUMBASS! He was new to welter so he didn't want to chance Floyd not meeting the contract weight. You say mannys always saying "ask arum" but he also said "testings not an issue" for a long time now. You can't PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELOEVE OUTTA HIS MOUTH CAUSE THAT'S WGAT YOU'RE DOING "dumbass". So which is it, do you take his words for what it is or do you wanna pick and choose what to believe? You can't have both. He's not the one saying in a PRESS CONFERENCE "pacquiao youre next!" then after the Ortiz fight he said "I didn't say that don't put words in my mouth". This is what I mean by logical DUMBASS.
Pacs camp? I don't give a damn who's camp says what, when it comes out the fighters mouth I'll believe it but Floyd always goes back on his word so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt just like the whole "TAKE THE TEST !" thing.

Look dumbass. Think about this. Floyd HAS TO ASK FOR OST FOR EVERY FIGHT NOW OR HE WILL LOOK ****** ONLY ASKING FOR IT FOR PAC. No ****. Easy work!! Yeah so easy that he brings up he's on steroids because he's so easy. Lol do you even know what you say contradicts your reasoning? No you don't cause you have been fooled by Floyd. I never was. My whole take from the BEGINNING was Floyd is making excuses til now since pacquiao looks like **** now. Lol and I actually like Floyd as a fighter he's dope as ****. He's just an idiot. Lol. If he challenged himself and had true heart who knows how truly great he could've been. It's sad. Wasted talent in a way cause he could've been so much bigger for the sport and made it even bigger than it is because he's that good. He should've fought manny 2 years ago. Ost IMO. Is a farce. MY OPINION DON'T BE BUTTHURT.

He fought clottey cause Floyd didn't want to fight him til he saw how bad he looked last Saturday. Deal with it.

Lol at fighthype. You serious?

Floyd dodged the fight by bringing up ost. Pacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time Floyd's been saying, "TAKE THE TEST!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with Floyd from Saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since Saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come Floyd aint yellin "TAKE THE TEST!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the Floyd extremist. The only thing now is Floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing Saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "TAKE THE TEST!"

Answer why all of a sudden testings not an issue anymore when they didn't negotiate at all lately? They secretly negotiated since Saturday? NO THE TEST WAS NEVER AN ISSUE.

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i gotta agree with this guy! manny needs to step up and tell father Arum that hes gonna take control here and fight floyd. arum is playing games and the public is tired of it

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Half these guys aren't really familiar with boxing outside of pac's career. That's why they fail to realize that beating a guy on the tail end of his career, coming off a loss is nothing to get props for. All they register is a big name. It's not who you beat but when you beat them that counts the most in boxing.

It's both, but the "who" only matters if the "when" is relevant.

[Deeznuts]

Pacman man up or both sides STFU...they both had a chance and they both were bullshtn each other...after this fk that fight

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Lol fight hype. Slap yourself. No Floyd never said he wanted ost til they already started negotiations go get your facts right or get me a link dumbass.

Yea he asked 10 mil cause your dude Floyd didn't come into the Marquez fight at the CONTRACYED WEIGHT YOU ****ING DUMBASS! He was new to welter so he didn't want to chance Floyd not meeting the contract weight. You say mannys always saying "ask arum" but he also said "testings not an issue" for a long time now. You can't PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELOEVE OUTTA HIS MOUTH CAUSE THAT'S WGAT YOU'RE DOING "dumbass". So which is it, do you take his words for what it is or do you wanna pick and choose what to believe? You can't have both. He's not the one saying in a PRESS CONFERENCE "pacquiao youre next!" then after the Ortiz fight he said "I didn't say that don't put words in my mouth". This is what I mean by logical DUMBASS.
Pacs camp? I don't give a damn who's camp says what, when it comes out the fighters mouth I'll believe it but Floyd always goes back on his word so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt just like the whole "TAKE THE TEST !" thing.

Look dumbass. Think about this. Floyd HAS TO ASK FOR OST FOR EVERY FIGHT NOW OR HE WILL LOOK ****** ONLY ASKING FOR IT FOR PAC. No ****. Easy work!! Yeah so easy that he brings up he's on steroids because he's so easy. Lol do you even know what you say contradicts your reasoning? No you don't cause you have been fooled by Floyd. I never was. My whole take from the BEGINNING was Floyd is making excuses til now since pacquiao looks like **** now. Lol and I actually like Floyd as a fighter he's dope as ****. He's just an idiot. Lol. If he challenged himself and had true heart who knows how truly great he could've been. It's sad. Wasted talent in a way cause he could've been so much bigger for the sport and made it even bigger than it is because he's that good. He should've fought manny 2 years ago. Ost IMO. Is a farce. MY OPINION DON'T BE BUTTHURT.

He walked away cause Floyd didn't want to fight him tillast Saturday. Deal with it.

Lol at fighthype. You serious?

You could have saved yourself from having to write that wall of dribble by simply checking the FightHype timeline like that guy suggested.

[bayareamike]

You could have saved yourself from having to write that wall of dribble by simply checking the FightHype timeline like that guy suggested.

Floyd dodged the fight by bringing up ost. Pacquiaos been saying testings not an issue for a year at least and the whole time Floyd's been saying, "TAKE THE TEST!" but manny obviously didn't negotiate with Floyd from Saturday til today so what's changed? Did they secretly negotiate since Saturday and manny just now said testing not an issue? No, he's been saying it forever so how come Floyd aint yellin "TAKE THE TEST!" now? Answer that for me. Testing was never an issue. Floyd lie to you and the rest of the Floyd extremist. The only thing now is Floyd wasn't confident in his skills before but after witnessing Saturday he really believes it now which is why he ain't preaching the "TAKE THE TEST!"

The other dude doesn't want to answerso maybe you can cause I'm interested in people's point of views.

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Lol fight hype. Slap yourself. No Floyd never said he wanted ost til they already started negotiations go get your facts right or get me a link dumbass.

Yea he asked 10 mil cause your dude Floyd didn't come into the Marquez fight at the CONTRACYED WEIGHT YOU ****ING DUMBASS! He was new to welter so he didn't want to chance Floyd not meeting the contract weight. You say mannys always saying "ask arum" but he also said "testings not an issue" for a long time now. You can't PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELOEVE OUTTA HIS MOUTH CAUSE THAT'S WGAT YOU'RE DOING "dumbass". So which is it, do you take his words for what it is or do you wanna pick and choose what to believe? You can't have both. He's not the one saying in a PRESS CONFERENCE "pacquiao youre next!" then after the Ortiz fight he said "I didn't say that don't put words in my mouth". This is what I mean by logical DUMBASS.
Pacs camp? I don't give a damn who's camp says what, when it comes out the fighters mouth I'll believe it but Floyd always goes back on his word so you have to take what he says with a grain of salt just like the whole "TAKE THE TEST !" thing.

Look dumbass. Think about this. Floyd HAS TO ASK FOR OST FOR EVERY FIGHT NOW OR HE WILL LOOK ****** ONLY ASKING FOR IT FOR PAC. No ****. Easy work!! Yeah so easy that he brings up he's on steroids because he's so easy. Lol do you even know what you say contradicts your reasoning? No you don't cause you have been fooled by Floyd. I never was. My whole take from the BEGINNING was Floyd is making excuses til now since pacquiao looks like **** now. Lol and I actually like Floyd as a fighter he's dope as ****. He's just an idiot. Lol. If he challenged himself and had true heart who knows how truly great he could've been. It's sad. Wasted talent in a way cause he could've been so much bigger for the sport and made it even bigger than it is because he's that good. He should've fought manny 2 years ago. Ost IMO. Is a farce. MY OPINION DON'T BE BUTTHURT.

He walked away cause Floyd didn't want to fight him tillast Saturday. Deal with it.

Lol at fighthype. You serious?

At this point it is very obvious that Pac ain't taking nothing and if he is then he needs to get his money back and stop going to back alleys to purchase it. I think Floyd felt like Pac was on something because he was punching on bigger guys and hurting them while taking their best when prior to that he was getting ko'd by body blows and wobbled around the ring by JMM. I think Bob fooled all of us though at some point or another but to me I realized that Pac ain't on nothing but rather his fights were set up to be easy and Bob could cash in. I still say Clottey and Mosley was suspect. Floyd should just tax Manny ass without the tests but even if Floyd wanted to he could not because Bob Arum ain't trying to make the fight happen but rather another humiliation fight with Juan Manuel Marquez. Wouldn't be surprised if Bob threw Manny to the wolves and put JMM on the pedestal next. Marquez should thank Pac for getting the gift decision because it just made JMM look that much greater than Manny. The so called P4P fighter in the world needed a gift decision to beat a guy he was expected to KO in 1 to 6 rounds and was a HUGE underdog going into the fight? Pac days are numbered as a top fighter. The same people who was sucking him in the sport are the same ones throwing him under the bus after the wolves chewed him up. should have been fought Floyd when he was considered good. Now he is just another notch on Mayweather's belt.

[spoonwars]

You could have saved yourself from having to write that wall of dribble by simply checking the FightHype timeline like that guy suggested.

Mayweather still fails to insist on fighting Pacquiao in the most recent interview at FloydHype. Floyd ain't currently giving interviews to anybody but his main man with the soft questions.

[Muscles72]

Floyd could've had this fight set up last may anyway but all he had to say was take the test mosley didn't ask for no test and marquez certainly wasn't cryin for no test either make no mistake about it THIS THE FIGHT THE FILIPINO'S WANT.TO.SEE PAC MARQUEZ4 thre is unfinished buisness pac know's that if floyd wants to fight on may5 ...so be it he can fight morales on the undercard.