Pacquiao/Marquez Post Fight Discussion- Please re-vote in the poll. .

[U.ncleSam]

He's clearly living by that prehistoric logic that "the challenger must take the title dramatically".

Nope.

All you have to do is win more rounds. And Marquez did just that, twice as many, actually.

and harold lederaman got it wrong too?

[Forza]

and harold lederaman got it wrong too?

ledderman and steward are employed by HBO...

[Flabulous]

No draw = ****** poll. That fight was a draw. Marquez had it if he fights in round 12, but he ran like a *****. Oscar-Trinidad all over again.

Draw = don't vote. It's doesn't take an IQ of 200 to figure that out.

[Khalid X]

I call bullshit on your prehistoric, "you have to take the title from the Champion powerfully" logic.

Newsflash : A title bout in boxing is the same as a non title bout, all you have to do to win it is win more rounds.

And Marquez won twice as many rounds as Pacquiao did last night.

Not here to flame, but which rounds were those as I just don't see it?

[Twako]

it was a matter of 'high expectations from pac' combined with 'jmm didnt do enough' which made the fight so close. even if these guys fight 10x more, if jmm won't take risks and just waits to counterpunch all the time, pac would always edge im out on any judges score.

[~AK49~]

How ive seen all three fights; Imo marquez won the first fight, but because of the knockdowns, i agree with the draw on the cards. the second was as good as a draw. The third, marquez had manny's number all night long outboxing him. It was a somewhat close, yet great fight, but marquez won imo.

[SyrianUser]

that marquez didnt do enough to get the belt.. emmanuel steward dont know sh.it about boxing?

Amir Khan saw Marquez as the winner against Pacquiao
November 13th, 2011


By William Mackay: IBF/WBA light welterweight champion Amir Khan worked the Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Manny Pacquiao fight as a commentator for Primetime PPV, and Khan shockingly saw Marquez as the winner in this fight, picking him as the victor over Khan’s good friend Pacquiao. That kind of tells you something when you’ve got Khan seeing Pacquiao as having lost this fight, as Khan has never saw Pacquiao losing in the past.

Khan noted that Pacquiao was completely unequipped to deal with Marquez’s style tonight and never made the needed adjustments for him to have rightfully deserved the 12 round majority decision that the judges awarded him. I personally agree with Khan in this case, as I had Marquez winning the fight by an 8 rounds to 4 score. Pacquiao wasn’t able to put his punches together and had to be content with landing only one shot at at time – mostly lefts – compared to the many combinations he was getting nailed with by Marquez.

Pacquiao’s right hand was a non factor in this fight and it was like he was the same one-handed fighter that fought Marquez in the first two fights. Freddie Roach, his trainer, did a great job of teaching Pacquiao how to throw a right hand, but he wasn’t throwing rights in this fight for some reason. Marquez shut that weapon down completely.

Pacquiao was booed long and hard after the fight by the MGM crowd. The booing really unnerved Pacquiao, because he didn’t look at all comfortable with the constant booing while being interviewed by Max Kellerman from HBO.


http://www.************.com/2011/11/...inst-pacquiao/

[Cardinal Buck]

I had JMM up 8-2 before he blew the last two rounds.

[|STALLION|]

This was a joke amongst an e-buddy of mine Shadows. We were on Jacks radio show and he stated he thought this gimmick was funny and how I should switch my username etc to this.

I've been to lazy to change it to something else, but I do find it funny that people still cry about it......."Ohh no it's Bob's assistant", "someone sent by Top Rank to boxingscene", or "LeBouf's intern".

So.

It's just a coincidence that your persona is also utterly congruent with that of an official Bobby-ballwasher?

Well, I do stand corrected.

[Khalid X]

As it should be over looked because it has nothing to do with scoring criteria or a decision in a fight. Its just an unofficial tool for reflective stats after a fight.

I actually agree with this as well. I completely disregard letterman and compubox during each fight and have my own scoring system (as bizarre as that sounds).