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  • Rounds where Marquez landed more punches and harder punches, HBO gave those rounds to Pacquiao because was walking forward and throwing more


    Did they forget what boxing is all about? And they try to play off the "Nacho shouldnt of said he was winning the fight" just to try to save face

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    • messed up how they did marquez he won that fight by 2 rounds
      gave pacman a boxing lesson

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      • The fight is not a robbery.

        On the round by round thread of the fight, i scored it 116-112 due to 1 round that could have gone either way and gave it to Pac. But in the end, i have it Pacquiao 115-113 over Marquez.

        JMM counter punching was not enough. When he did counter punch, it was just 1. When JMM was attacking, Pac was blocking most of it. Pacquiao on the other hand was being aggressive, throwing and landing more punches. Even Pac counterpunched JMM a few times. Pac was making JMM backed up. Round by round, it was back and forth, Pac winning 1 round then JMM winning the next.

        Coming to the 12th round, i have Pac up 6-5. The 12th round, both were doing nothing. Pac was moving forward while JMM was backing up. Its only in the last minute that Pac attacked, threw punches and landed some. This eventually won him the 12th round and the fight.

        According to the punch stats, Pac outland JMM in total punches and power punches. Remember back then when some of you guys that on the 2nd fight JMM outlanded Pac. Well, here it is Pac outlanded JMM and now some of you are discrediting it(specially the haters).

        As far as the tweets by boxers, they saw what they see. But if you put those boxers in the same situation, if they were in the winning end, they would say "I won". But if they were on the losing end, they would say "I was robbed".

        Most of the fans in the fight were Mexicans who supports JMM. So its not suprise that it seems that "all the crowd" were all jeering.

        As far as a 4th fight, not really interested. I am tired of rematches just like the

        Pac-Morales 3, Pac-Barrera 2, Vasquez-Marquez 3, and Jones-Dawson 2.


        As far as the poll, most of them are alts.

        Just my opinion. Don't expect a reply for me if you bash or respone to my post. I am tired of debating between Pac and JMM. I am just waiting now till the Cotto-Margarito fight. Have a nice life.

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        • Pac won another tough decision get over it. He should have gotten the W in the first match and Marquez on the second, but that's history Pac won at least a 115 to 113. Everyone that is butt hurt needs to get over it. Fact of the matter is Nacho should have told Marquez to do more in the last rounds but he FAILED him just like Oscar's corner against Tito.

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          • I mean, Manny's had his heroic Superhuman feats officially acknowledged. When he blew through catabolic DLH, clobbered a catchweight Cotto and smashed Margarito's face in, that's all in the record books.

            So why should it be rigged so that Marquez gets his shine took from him if he defies the odds and reaches his immortal summit? His achievement is arguably greater than any of Pacquiao's.

            It's just not fair. Really.

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            • http://cdn.******.craveonline.com/as...jpg?1321170895

              Ha ha, PAC turned Marquez to a pinata!

              [IMG]http://cdn2.******.craveonline.com/assets/components/com_joomgallery/img_pictures/part_2_pacquiao_vs_marquez_7463/2_pac_vs_marquez_7_20111112_1297770951.jpg?1321170 895[/IMG]

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              • How come 85% of the people can see what the result should have been but the judges could not get it right? I feel that if a Judge produces a **** score on a fight and it does not reflect on what has happened in the ring they should be no longer used as a Judge period..And if the organisation that put the judge or judges are unable to take the right decisions or actions the heads of the organisation should all so be removed or looked into the dealings,As this fight was fixed, Its not down to Manny but the money men who put money on this fight grrr.

                This is not good for the sport at all its bollox Marquez is the champ..Why should he have to take a 4th fight?

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                • Originally posted by loui_ludwig View Post
                  The fight is not a robbery.

                  On the round by round thread of the fight, i scored it 116-112 due to 1 round that could have gone either way and gave it to Pac. But in the end, i have it Pacquiao 115-113 over Marquez.

                  JMM counter punching was not enough. When he did counter punch, it was just 1. When JMM was attacking, Pac was blocking most of it. Pacquiao on the other hand was being aggressive, throwing and landing more punches. Even Pac counterpunched JMM a few times. Pac was making JMM backed up. Round by round, it was back and forth, Pac winning 1 round then JMM winning the next.

                  Coming to the 12th round, i have Pac up 6-5. The 12th round, both were doing nothing. Pac was moving forward while JMM was backing up. Its only in the last minute that Pac attacked, threw punches and landed some. This eventually won him the 12th round and the fight.

                  According to the punch stats, Pac outland JMM in total punches and power punches. Remember back then when some of you guys that on the 2nd fight JMM outlanded Pac. Well, here it is Pac outlanded JMM and now some of you are discrediting it(specially the haters).

                  As far as the tweets by boxers, they saw what they see. But if you put those boxers in the same situation, if they were in the winning end, they would say "I won". But if they were on the losing end, they would say "I was robbed".

                  Most of the fans in the fight were Mexicans who supports JMM. So its not suprise that it seems that "all the crowd" were all jeering.

                  As far as a 4th fight, not really interested. I am tired of rematches just like the

                  Pac-Morales 3, Pac-Barrera 2, Vasquez-Marquez 3, and Jones-Dawson 2.


                  As far as the poll, most of them are alts.

                  Just my opinion. Don't expect a reply for me if you bash or respone to my post. I am tired of debating between Pac and JMM. I am just waiting now till the Cotto-Margarito fight. Have a nice life.
                  100% correct

                  due to the KDs, compubox does not tell very well how 1 and 2 went

                  No KDs in the 3rd means compubox can be given a bit more crredibility,.

                  but factoring out compubox, pac outdamaged jmm by far-the only damage jmm did was a headbutt.


                  the judges have pac 3-0, i agree with them 101%

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                  • Originally posted by loui_ludwig View Post
                    The fight is not a robbery.

                    On the round by round thread of the fight, i scored it 116-112 due to 1 round that could have gone either way and gave it to Pac. But in the end, i have it Pacquiao 115-113 over Marquez.

                    JMM counter punching was not enough. When he did counter punch, it was just 1. When JMM was attacking, Pac was blocking most of it. Pacquiao on the other hand was being aggressive, throwing and landing more punches. Even Pac counterpunched JMM a few times. Pac was making JMM backed up. Round by round, it was back and forth, Pac winning 1 round then JMM winning the next.

                    Coming to the 12th round, i have Pac up 6-5. The 12th round, both were doing nothing. Pac was moving forward while JMM was backing up. Its only in the last minute that Pac attacked, threw punches and landed some. This eventually won him the 12th round and the fight.

                    According to the punch stats, Pac outland JMM in total punches and power punches. Remember back then when some of you guys that on the 2nd fight JMM outlanded Pac. Well, here it is Pac outlanded JMM and now some of you are discrediting it(specially the haters).

                    As far as the tweets by boxers, they saw what they see. But if you put those boxers in the same situation, if they were in the winning end, they would say "I won". But if they were on the losing end, they would say "I was robbed".

                    Most of the fans in the fight were Mexicans who supports JMM. So its not suprise that it seems that "all the crowd" were all jeering.

                    As far as a 4th fight, not really interested. I am tired of rematches just like the

                    Pac-Morales 3, Pac-Barrera 2, Vasquez-Marquez 3, and Jones-Dawson 2.


                    As far as the poll, most of them are alts.

                    Just my opinion. Don't expect a reply for me if you bash or respone to my post. I am tired of debating between Pac and JMM. I am just waiting now till the Cotto-Margarito fight. Have a nice life.
                    I agree with you in but the rematch quote, and yes Cotto calling Marg ****** was hilarious... Can't wait WAR COTTO!!!!!

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                    • JMM was NOT robbed

                      After seeing again....i still have Pac winning 115-113. Clearly some of those rounds were as close as you can get, but when they are that close, you give the benefit of the doubt to the champ. JMM problem was that ONCE AGAIN.....he was hoping the judges would save him. Nacho made the dumb mistake of pulling a DelaHoya Trinidad by telling him he had the fight won and just to get out.

                      Yes Pac landed and threw more, but i think JMM had the more damaging shots. Then again....JMM shots were clear where Pacs shots happened so fast that you would miss them if you didnt rewatch or see in slow motion. End of the day, JMM HAD to take it and he did not. He has no one to blame but himself. I know alot of you are crying foul, but i think most of you are just on emotional high because Pac did not dominate the way we are used to, and not used to seeing him in a technical fight. Im a fan of the sport, and will admit when i feel someone was wronged, and Pac DID win this fight, and NO ONE was wronged. Before yall start saying that i dont know anything, call me names, or ive been watching for 2 years, or whatever you people say.....i give credit where credit is due, and JMM DID NOT want it enough....PERIOD


                      P.S. Stop comparing JMM to PBF by saying that PBF would kill Pac because of JMM and how that went down....BIG DIFFERENCE....JMM WILL TRADE and not back down if someone trys to get in close. I still think Floyd beats Pac, but to say that because JMM gave Pac all he could handle, and Floyd dominated him, that its a lock for Floyd......is just beyond ******.

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