What's with the Bute hate?

[168SMW]

You talk like Bute ISN'T a champion yet. His record is much better than you try to give him credit for. Then, you ****ride Miranda, who got knock the **** out of his mind.

Of course, dumb ass Americans will claim that Johnson isn't the same then against Dawson and Cloud, that he DECLINED fast.

We heard THE SAME THING when Johnson fought back then...Or another example, Hopkins fight.

Johnson won 2 rounds last night out of 10, it was a schooling session. You could see that even a "prime" Johnson wasn't going to hurt Bute, despite having a reach advantage, Johnson couldn't land. How many shot he landed last night? Honestly, I don't even think he landed 100 shots to be honest. Not because he is a shot fighter, because Bute superior's speed, footwork and power was scaring Johnson all night.

You could tell from the beginning of the 5th round that he knew he wasn't going to win that fight and only wanted to stay on his feet, that was his only target for the second half of the fight.

Bute is the strongest guy in the division and hardest puncher.

I've hear about his "shaddy" defence since Day 1. He got clipped once in his career after being nonchalant while winning 10 out of 11 rounds against his opponent that night.

Froch wouldn't win against Bute, no chance.

Ward only chance his clinch headbutting, dirty tactics and home advantage.

People blame Lucian for fighting at the same place...He fought in Montreal, Quebec City, Romania. Its already better than Ward who fought in Oakland and thats it.

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As for people who care about a Euro winning because he's white, etc., we just saw how many black American fans irrationally picked James Toney to beat Denis Lebedev just because he is a black hero of theirs.

What are you talking about? Toney was the sentimental favorite with a lot of posters on BoxingScene (black, white, Mexican, and other) because he is a legend in the sport who is still fighting in his 40s. Not because of his race.

[Lucky Jim]

What are you talking about? Toney was the sentimental favorite with a lot of posters on BoxingScene (black, white, Mexican, and other) because he is a legend in the sport who is still fighting in his 40s. Not because of his race.

The evidence says otherwise. I was violently cussed out by more than a few blacks because I had the gall to say Toney would lose. I still have one such comment on my profile.

That isn't to say that no other races were cheering for Toney, any more than all the people who thought Lebedev would win did so because he is a white Euro.

I picked Toney to lose because of the evidence available from the last 5 years of his career.

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Based on how you usually go against American fighters (who happen to be black) and your quote disrespecting Buddy McGirt maybe it's you who has the racial issues?

Come to think of it....Freedom, is that you? Did you get a new alt after getting banned?

[Cutthroat]

You talk like Bute ISN'T a champion yet. His record is much better than you try to give him credit for. Then, you ****ride Miranda, who got knock the **** out of his mind.

Of course, dumb ass Americans will claim that Johnson isn't the same then against Dawson and Cloud, that he DECLINED fast.

We heard THE SAME THING when Johnson fought back then...Or another example, Hopkins fight.

Johnson won 2 rounds last night out of 10, it was a schooling session. You could see that even a "prime" Johnson wasn't going to hurt Bute, despite having a reach advantage, Johnson couldn't land. How many shot he landed last night? Honestly, I don't even think he landed 100 shots to be honest. Not because he is a shot fighter, because Bute superior's speed, footwork and power was scaring Johnson all night.

You could tell from the beginning of the 5th round that he knew he wasn't going to win that fight and only wanted to stay on his feet, that was his only target for the second half of the fight.

Bute is the strongest guy in the division and hardest puncher.

I've hear about his "shaddy" defence since Day 1. He got clipped once in his career after being nonchalant while winning 10 out of 11 rounds against his opponent that night.

Froch wouldn't win against Bute, no chance.

Ward only chance his clinch headbutting, dirty tactics and home advantage.

People blame Lucian for fighting at the same place...He fought in Montreal, Quebec City, Romania. Its already better than Ward who fought in Oakland and thats it.

I wasnt **** riding miranda lmao, Forza just said Ward struggled with Miranda and I proved him wrong. Everyone could see glens decline, the words came right out of frochs mouth, do you honestly think froch would discredit his victory just for the hell of it?

Bute was standing right in front of johnson, normally johnson would've been pressuring the hell out of him instead he did nothing the entire fight, its not like he was getting hurt either most of butes shots were hitting his gloves, he wasnt hurt a single time.

[Spray_resistant]

I wasnt **** riding miranda lmao, Forza just said Ward struggled with Miranda and I proved him wrong. Everyone could see glens decline, the words came right out of frochs mouth, do you honestly think froch would discredit his victory just for the hell of it?

Bute was standing right in front of johnson, normally johnson would've been pressuring the hell out of him instead he did nothing the entire fight, its not like he was getting hurt either most of butes shots were hitting his gloves, he wasnt hurt a single time.

I think he was very concerned with Bute's power, he never really got hurt in that fight but when does he ever really in fights against anyone?

[Forza]

I wasnt **** riding miranda lmao, Forza just said Ward struggled with Miranda and I proved him wrong. Everyone could see glens decline, the words came right out of frochs mouth, do you honestly think froch would discredit his victory just for the hell of it?

Bute was standing right in front of johnson, normally johnson would've been pressuring the hell out of him instead he did nothing the entire fight, its not like he was getting hurt either most of butes shots were hitting his gloves, he wasnt hurt a single time.

Now you're lying. Bute wobbled johnson at least twice. Probably would've finished him off if he didn't have mercy because they were friends and sparring partners for a long time.

Go and watch miranda vs ward it wasn't a shut out at all, and miranda is just a slugger which makes it sad on ward's part.

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Ward is not the hardest puncher in the world but he picked Miranda apart with superior boxing. It wasn't a close fight at all.

[Forza]

It was closer than it should have been considering ward's amateur credentials

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Have you even watched the fight? Ward didn't get a knockout but that is not his game.

Other than that he completely dominated Miranda. 119-109 on two scorecards.