Today's Marquez would DESTROY Mayweather

[Reloaded]

Don't weight limits function as upper bounds? Why do you have to go up to match them? If JMM wanted to stay down at 135 or whatever, the fight could have gone ahead, no? I remember Roy Jones Jr. forcing himself to bulk up close to 200 lbs. to fight Ruiz years ago, when he probably would have been just as effective staying down closer to 185 or whatever he was comfortable at.

A bulked JMM is slower , now slow a counter puncher and what do you have somebody that cant catch Pac like he did before , if JMM trys to be fast he will be to weak at the weight , do really think Roach forces these CWs for nothing , come on are you really that gullible to the sport ,

Now Roach is sprouting of about Martinez at 150 , 150 lol do you know what that will do to Martinez , no , go and watch Oscar vs Pac and see how Oscar needed IV fluids to gain 2 pounds because his body shut down , weight in fighting is a science and Freddie is using it to his advantage , lots of fighters and trainers dont know the real deal with weight .

[Scoooter]

A bulked JMM is slower , now slow a counter puncher and what do you have somebody that cant catch Pac like he did before , if JMM trys to be fast he will be to weak at the weight , do really think Roach forces these CWs for nothing , come on are you really that gullible to the sport ,

Now Roach is sprouting of about Martinez at 150 , 150 lol do you know what that will do to Martinez , no , go and watch Oscar vs Pac and see how Oscar needed IV fluids to gain 2 pounds because his body shut down , weight in fighting is a science and Freddie is using it to his advantage , lots of fighters and trainers dont know the real deal with weight .

I'm not talking about losing weight; obviously the way some of these guys drain themselves to make weight great affects their ability to fight. I understand that different weights suit different fighters and may be advantageous of not. I was talking about gaining weight. If a bulked up JMM is slower, then why do it? It's only a handful of pounds we're talking about. Is the obvious con of losing your speed and reflexes outweighed by the pro of...what, being tougher to handle in a clinch? What do those extra pounds get you? Not more power. Not more agility or stamina.

[DoomCity202]

You wasted a lot of time and energy.

But thanks for your opinion.... it is valued by Pacquiao fans at least.

[tangalog2200]

Juan would be schooled by Floyd any weight any time the skills is a mile apart , Juan is a technically taught counter puncher a product of tuition and hard work , Floyd is a naturally gifted boxing genius , same reason Leonard and Ali were so good , a trainer cant teach what they have a trainer can only bring it out , Floyd is a special fighter .

ali and leonard.. both are a universe way ahead over floyd....

floyd vs the jmm of today is still sort of another fantasy match-up....

[Phil Ivey]

Even Marquez believes he would get schooled again rofl.

[Canelo Phresh]

ali and leonard.. both are a universe way ahead over floyd....

floyd vs the jmm of today is still sort of another fantasy match-up....

thats sig worthy

[ballgamessuck]

I detest Floyd, but.......

I never underestimate Floyd's talent. Floyd beats him either way. I do think that we are going to see a much more fit and strong, and perhaps even faster JMM at 144 this time as compared to what he was vs Floyd, but still not enough to change the outcome. At best it would be a more competitive fight.

[p4p-champ]

Bombs, Strugg...and all their ***********al alts should be IP banned for ******ity alone.

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

Background:

When Marquez fought Mayweather, he never had a chance to prepare. Instead of bulking up with muscles as he has this time, lightweight Marquez had to fatten himself up to the CONTRACTED CATCH weight of 144 lbs.

It was a FAT Marquez that fought Mayweather who chose not to honestly weigh in at the contracted weight of 144 lbs. Estimates had him as high as 155 lbs., but we can never find out the truth because Floyd REFUSED to be weighted on fight night.

Despite all of his physical disadvantages, Marquez, who didn't even have a tune up fight higher than lightweight (as he has this time around), was able to hit Mayweather flush at least 6 times during their fight with the same punch that a bigger Mosley almost KTFO Floyd with. Naturally, Mayweather couldn't possibly get hurt because he was effectively a jr. middleweight getting hit by a FAT lightweight.

Today:

Marquez is a lean and mean 144 lbs. super fighter who has had a chance to give himself tune ups above lightweight. This is not the FAT Marquez that Floyd cherrypicked. This is a well trained muscular Marquez who has had the chance to acclimate to his new weight.

Conclusion:

If a jr. middleweight Floyd Mayweather couldn't even hurt (much less KO) a FAT lightweight Marquez who he cheated during the weigh ins, what makes you think that Floyd would do better against Marquez this time around?

If Floyd fought Marquez today without cheating, then he would lose. It is a much better Marquez. A new and improved version of the fat one that he cherrypicked and then cheated back then.

Marquez was not fat in that fight. lol JMM is older now too. Just wait and see how he does against Pac this time around. He hasn't even proved himself as a WW, so I don't know where you are getting the impression he is better now.

[sdcluser]

Background:

When Marquez fought Mayweather, he never had a chance to prepare. Instead of bulking up with muscles as he has this time, lightweight Marquez had to fatten himself up to the CONTRACTED CATCH weight of 144 lbs.

It was a FAT Marquez that fought Mayweather who chose not to honestly weigh in at the contracted weight of 144 lbs. Estimates had him as high as 155 lbs., but we can never find out the truth because Floyd REFUSED to be weighted on fight night.

Despite all of his physical disadvantages, Marquez, who didn't even have a tune up fight higher than lightweight (as he has this time around), was able to hit Mayweather flush at least 6 times during their fight with the same punch that a bigger Mosley almost KTFO Floyd with. Naturally, Mayweather couldn't possibly get hurt because he was effectively a jr. middleweight getting hit by a FAT lightweight.

Today:

Marquez is a lean and mean 144 lbs. super fighter who has had a chance to give himself tune ups above lightweight. This is not the FAT Marquez that Floyd cherrypicked. This is a well trained muscular Marquez who has had the chance to acclimate to his new weight.

Conclusion:

If a jr. middleweight Floyd Mayweather couldn't even hurt (much less KO) a FAT lightweight Marquez who he cheated during the weigh ins, what makes you think that Floyd would do better against Marquez this time around?

If Floyd fought Marquez today without cheating, then he would lose. It is a much better Marquez. A new and improved version of the fat one that he cherrypicked and then cheated back then.

Sigh.......smh