Marquez arguably beat Pac twice and he's not a legit opponent ?

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  • gibo
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    #41
    Marquez better drink some of Mayweathers piss in order to beat Pacquiao, cause his ain't done him any good! Or try berinstien's! LOL Piss Drinkers!!!

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    • gibo
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      #42
      Marquez better drink some of Mayweathers piss in order to beat Pacquiao, cause his ain't done him any good! Or try berinstien's! LOL Piss Drinkers!!!

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      • UglyPug
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        #43
        TIOZZO - thank you good sir. . . ive been reiterating over and over again why this is not some gimme fight. . .

        what it is, the haters are just trying to say all this shyt about marquez they know isn't true, so when marquez does make it a good fight, thety can say "see! look how overrated pac is!" and "mayweather shut him out and pacquiao couldn't do this, blah, blah". . .

        AND, if pac KO's him, then they can say "see, told you so, blah, blah blah.. . ."

        IF pac becomes the first man to stop marquez, that will be very impressive. . . floyd couldn't come close to stopping him, and he didn't even honor the catchweight. . .

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          #44
          Originally posted by uglypug
          TIOZZO - thank you good sir. . . ive been reiterating over and over again why this is not some gimme fight. . .

          what it is, the haters are just trying to say all this shyt about marquez they know isn't true, so when marquez does make it a good fight, thety can say "see! look how overrated pac is!" and "mayweather shut him out and pacquiao couldn't do this, blah, blah". . .

          AND, if pac KO's him, then they can say "see, told you so, blah, blah blah.. . ."

          IF pac becomes the first man to stop marquez, that will be very impressive. . . floyd couldn't come close to stopping him, and he didn't even honor the catchweight. . .
          WEIGHT will make it not impressive , it would be harder fot Pac to totally school Juan like Floyd did than to KO him , but you would have to have some boxing knowledge to figure that out .

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          • WARQUEZ
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            #45
            So all because Marquez beat him at the lower weights WHEN PACQUIAO DIDN'T HAVE A SIZE ADVANTAGE this 3rd fight at WW is legit all of a sudden? It's just as legit as the Floyd fight plain and simple.

            Marquez is going to give him hell regardless. Even at 38 with all the wars he's had moving up in weight to face a bigger, faster, younger fighter at the peak of his career. He's still gonna be whooping ass and taking names, but that still doesn't make it a legit fight. It'll just be a testament to how good Marquez is and how these so called Pacquiao "improvements" don't exist.

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            • 007geyweather
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              #46
              Originally posted by Phenom
              3 years too late two weight classes too high


              plus we all saw Mayweather vs Marquez two years ago
              Then you have to disagree to everything Mayweather said about Marquez.. How he is a legit fight for him..

              Marquez has more experience now on higher weight class compare the day he fought Mayweather... we will see...

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                #47
                Originally posted by Tiozzo
                Please, come here and explain yourselves you guys, cause I don't get it.

                How can a guy who gave hell to Pac twice and arguably won is now a joke fight, a crap fight, etc. I don't get it.

                Marquez has become the lineal LW champ, unified champ since he lost to Pacquiao. In other words, they have both been very successful pursuing their goals and their careers.

                And now it's a crap fight ???



                Marquez = 38 years old + Smaller + Not fighting at his natural weight


                Pacquiao = Age advantage (32 years old) + Size advantage + Weight advantage



                You understand now ?




                But Pacfans are very proud of this , like they are proud of the Catchweights and Weight drainings
                Last edited by SyrianKid; 10-29-2011, 04:58 AM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SyrianKid
                  Marquez = 38 years old + Smaller + Not fighting at his natural weight


                  Pacquiao = Age advantage (32 years old) + Size advantage + Weight advantage



                  You understand now ?




                  But Pacfans are very proud of this , like they are proud of the Catchweights and Weight drainings
                  in what weight did floyd fought JMM? uhoh..

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                  • SyrianKid
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by carts
                    in what weight did floyd fought JMM? uhoh..



                    Mayweather vs Marquez = Mayweather didnt have 2 controversial fights against Maqruez so he wasnt trying to prove that he really beat Marquez like Pacquiao is doing knowing that he got the age , size and weight advantage + Mayweather came off a 2 year lay off and we all know that when a boxer takes a long lay off he can have ring rust + Juan Manuel Marquez was number 2 on the Pound for Pound rankings + Marquez called Mayweather out + Marquez was 35 or 36 years old and not 38 years old

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                    • UglyPug
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SyrianKid
                      Marquez = 38 years old + Smaller + Not fighting at his natural weight


                      Pacquiao = Age advantage (32 years old) + Size advantage + Weight advantage



                      You understand now ?




                      But Pacfans are very proud of this , like they are proud of the Catchweights and Weight drainings

                      so pacquiao has always had an age advantage? everybody knows age and "boxing age" are different. . . marquez is better than ever with his newfound jab, aggressiveness, and work-rate. . .

                      pacquiao does not hold a size, nor weight advantage over marquez. it's just that marquez has been CUTTING WEIGHT to make 135, whereas Pacquiao has just stopped cutting weight and fighting at his "walking around" weight. . . Pacquiao and Marquez BOTH REHYDRATE TO THE SAME WEIGHT. . . I will give you 100 million points if Pacquiao outweights Marquez by more than 2 pounds on fight-night. . . THEY WILL WALK IN THE RING THE SAME WEIGHT?! So riddle me this. . HOW is there a "size and weight' advantage?

                      Marquez has fought ONE FIGHT at 144 pounds, and that was against the best defensive fighter of our era - the HARDEST style for anyone to fight. . . IT IS A NOOB MISTAKE to assume he can't perform well against a guy he took to the edge and back twice. . . Marquez will have just as much of an advantage of NOT CUTTING WEIGHT as pacquiao has. . . This will give us an idea of how their fight would turn out back in the olden days before 24 hour weigh-ins

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