Marquez arguably beat Pac twice and he's not a legit opponent ?

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    #51
    Originally posted by SyrianKid
    Mayweather vs Marquez = Mayweather didnt lose 2 times against Maqruez so he wasnt trying to prove that he really beat Marquez like Pacquiao is doing knowing that he got the age , size and weight advantage + Mayweather came off a 2 year lay off and we all know that when a boxer takes a long lay off he can have ring rust + Juan Manuel Marquez was number 2 on the Pound for Pound rankings + Marquez called Mayweather out + Marquez was 35 or 36 years old and not 38 years old
    why not just admit its just a tuneup fight for floyd? manny is not the one asking for this fight its JMM so dont blame manny this fight legit or not its a fight i think will be better than suckered punched ending PPV Floyd vs Ortiz

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      #52
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      WEIGHT will make it not impressive , it would be harder fot Pac to totally school Juan like Floyd did than to KO him , but you would have to have some boxing knowledge to figure that out .

      umm, since when is "totally schooling a guy" by decisioning him more impressive (and more difficult) than stopping him?

      KNOCKING A GUY OUT is "totally schooling him". . . It's the QUINTESSENTIAL "SCHOOLING/PWNAGE" of somebody. . . you render them HELPLESS and unable to continue. . .

      If Pac becomes THE FIRST MAN to stop marquez, then he deserves all kinds of mad props. . . If pac stops him, it will be more impressive than floyd decisioning him. . .

      With that said - I don't expect Pac to stop Marquez; I don't expect Pac to shut him out. .. I expect this fight to look similar to their first two fights. . . It's just a style mesh. . . However, somebody with boxing knowledge would know that you can't base the outcome of a floyd and pac fight on their performances against a common opponent. . . ain't how boxing works. . .

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        #53
        Originally posted by carts
        why not just admit its just a tuneup fight for floyd? manny is not the one asking for this fight its JMM so dont blame manny this fight legit or not its a fight i think will be better than suckered punched ending PPV Floyd vs Ortiz



        Marquez wanted the 3rd fight for years and he gets it at 38 years old because Pacquiao is a coward



        Pacquiao vs Marquez III is a mismatch and it will be better than Mayweather vs Ortiz , you are very happy because Pacquaio has all the advantages in this fight ?


        And last time i checked Mayweather vs Ortiz ended with a legal knockout


        This is what i was saying Pacfans are very proud of this , Catchweights , Weight drainings , Cherry picking old fighters , YES I LOVE IT

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          #54
          Originally posted by SyrianKid
          Marquez wanted the 3rd fight for years and he gets it at 38 years old because Pacquiao is a coward



          This fight is a mismatch and it will be better than Mayweather vs Ortiz , you are very happy because Pacquaio has all the advantages in this fight ?


          And last time i checked Mayweather vs Ortiz ended with a legal knockout


          This is what i was saying Pacfans are very proud of this , Catchweights , Weight drainings , Cherry picking old fighters , YES I LOVE IT
          i didnt said it ended in an illegal knock out i said it ended SUCKERPUNCHED

          so you think floyd ortiz isnt a mismatch?

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            #55
            Originally posted by carts
            i didnt said it ended in an illegal knock out i said it ended SUCKERPUNCHED

            so you think floyd ortiz isnt a mismatch?



            Of course its not a mismatch



            Ortiz = Younger , Stronger and Bigger + WBC World Champion


            Mayweather = Long Lay Off



            Everybody was saying Victor Ortiz is a dangerous fight for Mayweather , Victor Ortiz knocked all of his opponents down and he can give Mayweather his first knock down , knock out and his first loss , once Mayweather beat him all of a sudden Victor Oritz sucks , at least for Pacfans
            Last edited by SyrianKid; 10-29-2011, 05:29 AM.

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              #56
              Originally posted by SyrianKid
              Of course its not a mismatch



              Ortiz = Younger , Stronger and Bigger + WBC World Champion


              Mayweather = Long Lay Off



              Everybody was saying Victor Ortiz is a dangerous fight for Mayweather , Victor Ortiz knocked all of his opponents down and he can give Mayweather his first knock down , knock out and his first loss , once Mayweather beat him all of a sudden Oritz sucks , at least for Pacfans


              i agree with you here - i give floyd mad respect for tkaing on ortiz. . . i actually thought ortiz was the best opponent for him aside from pacquiao. . .

              a little disappointed in the ending, but i thought floyd was justified in taking revenge after that blatant headbutt. . . i also tihnk he was on his way to a clear decision, if not late stoppage. . .

              but this trilogy fight NEEDS TO HAPPEN. . . the fact that they are the same damn size (pac and marquez), makes it better that NEITHER HAS TO CUT WEIGHT. . . so weight won't be a FACTOR AT ALL. . . like i said, this is how the fight would be in the olden days before day-before weigh-ins. . . IF pac rehydrates more than 3 pounds heavier than marquez, ill give you 100 million points and agree that pacquiao enjoyed a size advantage.

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                #57
                Originally posted by SyrianKid
                Of course its not a mismatch



                Ortiz = Younger , Stronger and Bigger + WBC World Champion

                Mayweather = Long Lay Off



                Everybody was saying Victor Ortiz is a dangerous fight for Mayweather , Victor Ortiz knocked all of his opponents down and he can give Mayweather his first knock down , knock out and his first loss , once Mayweather beat him all of a sudden Victor Oritz sucks , at least for Pacfans
                did the long lay off affected him to the mosley and jmm fight? nah so dont give me that lame excuse *****

                look up the odds who the hell thinks ortiz would win? youre a funny dude!

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                  #58
                  and u guys still believe this is a legit fight

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Roja's480
                    and u guys still believe this is a legit fight
                    why isn't it? please tell me why? do pac and marquez both not rehydrate to 148? does marquez not have an inch height on pac? did marquez not take pacquiao to the edge and back two times?

                    has marquez ever fought anybody else aside from the best defensive fighter of our era at 144?


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                      #60
                      its a trilogy legit or not i dont care what you think but its a fight ill watch and i know it will be better than floyd ortiz

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