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  • IMDAZED
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    #171
    Originally posted by Ugh!
    really? are you gonna make me rewatch everything?
    I want you to watch them for the first time.

    yes, want me to get corny? manny pacquiao one of the greatest fighters of all time, 8 division champion, considered best fighter in the world in his prime and blah blah...i can't bother
    Yes. And at welter ranks well below Tito and a slew of others.


    i dont know what you want me to say, the cotto is chinny is an opinion, and a senseless one at that with nothing to back it up.
    Not sure it matters since Manny would be facing Tito, not Cotto.

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      #172
      Originally posted by Ugh!
      well regardless, im thinking of the whitaker fight, whitaker about the size of manny, except pacquiao is bulkier, faster, stronger, maybe not as slick, but whitaker wasn't exactly being slick niether

      that version of trinidad, i'd pick pacquiao by murder
      No, Whitaker was physically stronger than Pacquiao, a past prime Whitaker managed to successfully man handle Tito at times and Manny is incapable of that. Also, Pernell could fight in the inside, may have been past it but he still had the kind of attributes that Manny lacks right now.

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        #173
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        I want you to watch them for the first time.
        harsh



        Yes. And at welter ranks well below Tito and a slew of others.
        well he has accomplished less so it's understandable


        Not sure it matters since Manny would be facing Tito, not Cotto.
        you're the one that drove to that discussion not me, i was talkin to flicker

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          #174
          Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
          No, Whitaker was physically stronger than Pacquiao, a past prime Whitaker managed to successfully man handle Tito at times and Manny is incapable of that. Also, Pernell could fight in the inside, may have been past it but he still had the kind of attributes that Manny lacks right now.
          well i never said or am saying that manny would manhandle tito
          but, yep, manny is incapable of that

          fantasy is great
          i dream you dream

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            #175
            Originally posted by Ugh!
            harsh
            reality.



            well he has accomplished less so it's understandable
            No, he has a puncher's chance.


            you're the one that drove to that discussion not me, i was talkin to flicker
            Yeah, I drove that discussion by asking you how it relates to Tito. But regardless, you're out of answers.

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              #176
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              reality.
              lol

              No, he has a puncher's chance.
              why are we even discussing, of all the discussions i've had with you, you always favor the bigger puncher and are usually very wrong in your predictions

              Yeah, I drove that discussion by asking you how it relates to Tito. But regardless, you're out of answers.
              well flicker brought it up for starters, not me, he said if chinny cotto can take pacquiao's punches why can't tito? well cotto hasn't been knocked down god knows how manny times, he also isn't as squared up as tito, was my answer and tito is like a left cross magnet
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 10-13-2011, 08:37 PM.

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                #177
                Originally posted by Ugh!
                why are we even discussing, of all the discussions i've had with you, you always favor the bigger puncher and are usually very wrong in your predictions
                Sadly, this doesn't change what I've outlined here. Arguments like "he got hit a lot by Pernell Whitaker" (which he didn't) means you should watch fights before talking about them. Have you ever seen Pacquiao against the very dangerous Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov? Everyone gets hit.
                well flicker brought it up for starters, not me, he said if chinny cotto can take pacquiao's punches why can't tito? well cotto hasn't been knocked down god knows how manny times, he also isn't as squared up as tito, was my answer
                He also didn't take a punch as well as Tito, nor did he hit as hard as Tito, nor was he as good as Tito. Cotto hasn't been knocked down as many times? How many times has he been stopped? Knockdowns are subjective. He's also been hurt far more than Tito was. Only one person stopped Tito and that was Bernard Hopkins. I don't think Pacquiao, Cotto or anyone else at 147 could withstand his punches for 12 rounds.

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                  #178
                  Cotto perforated Manny's ear drum with a big left hook. Tito's puncher's chance would be very high.

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                    #179
                    Originally posted by project xxx1
                    ts said prime for prime,i think manny beats up tito

                    manny lands on tito chin early and jumps on him,he throws too many punches for tito to handle,tito's left hook would be missing all night long
                    Manny's a southpaw and like all southpaw's he is easily hit with right hands!
                    Tito had the best of his time! Biggest punching WW since hearns.
                    IMO stops Manny in the mid rounds of a war.

                    Leonard would be a complete mismatch as his better footwork/speed and hand speed would take Manny's entire game away

                    Hearns would be as much as a mismatch, his height and reach combined with speed and power would cripple Manny easily

                    And Duran is just JMM x100, a master boxer with "Hands of stone". I think he stops manny very easily

                    These men went on to win World titles in several higher weight classes and are all time greats! The hype that is manny pacquaio will fade in time!

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                      #180
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Sadly, this doesn't change what I've outlined here. Arguments like "he got hit a lot by Pernell Whitaker" (which he didn't) means you should watch fights before talking about them. Have you ever seen Pacquiao against the very dangerous Serikzhan Yeshmagambetov? Everyone gets hit.
                      who the ****??

                      He also didn't take a punch as well as Tito, nor did he hit as hard as Tito, nor was he as good as Tito. Cotto hasn't been knocked down as many times? How many times has he been stopped? Knockdowns are subjective. He's also been hurt far more than Tito was. Only one person stopped Tito and that was Bernard Hopkins. I don't think Pacquiao, Cotto or anyone else at 147 could withstand his punches for 12 rounds.
                      what do you mean he also didn't take a punch as well as tito, he got hit ****en hard vs mosley
                      tito would've gone down, held on and only survived because he lowblowed his way to the end of the round

                      i'd say cotto's chin is better although probabley not by much
                      Last edited by SplitSecond; 10-13-2011, 08:51 PM.

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