Better Legacy, Bernard Hopkins or Wladmir Klitschko?

[UglyPug]

Hopkins easily. His competition is 10x better than the brothers.

De La Hoya
Jermaine Taylor x2
Antonio Tarver
Winky Wright
Joe Calzaghe
Roy Jones x2
Jean Pascal x2
Chad Dawson
Kelly Pavlik
Felix Trinidad
Glen Johnson
William Joppy

His resume is impressive.

During his MW reign, he took the title from a guy who retired at 19-10-3 (he drew with him the first time fighting for the MW title). He fought the same opponents SEVEN TIMES during his reign. Robert Allen (WHO) thrice, Antwun Echols (WHO) twice, and the aforementoined mercado twice. Glen Johnson was his best win at MW, IMO. Seeing how Trinidad and oscar are FAR from natural MW's.

Scrutinizing the world class competition he has fought - Jermain Taylor - Lost both fights, Winky (fought him three weight classes above where he should have been fighting), Trinidad (fought him two weight classes above where he should have been), Oscar (fought him a weight class and some change where he should have been), Joe Calzaghe beat him, beat by Roy Jones when it mattered (come on, the "rematch" was a JOKE), TARVER = GOOD WIN AGAINST GUY HIS SAME SIZE, DREW WITH PASCAL (yes, he won the fight, but it was close), BEAT PASCAL - GOOD WIN; SAME SIZE, Beat Pavlik, good win, but pavlik fighting TEN POUNDS higher than where he was established.

[P4P Opinion]

Hopkins, and it isn't even close. Not Wladimir's fault, as the opponents just haven't been there, but the point stands.

[UglyPug]

Hopkins does have the better legacy, and is an all time great, but if you scrutinize the Klitschko's, then you gotta scrutinize Hopkins too. . . A lot of haters just refuse to give Klitschko's their due props, and I have no clue why. . . When Wladimir is finished and retired - he will be on par with Joe Louis for title defenses. . . Competition notwithstanding, that's RARE. . VERY RARE. . .

[S IP U IR S xII]

Common sense says Hopkins, but its not the "K" brothers fault that the division has been watered down. Either way, love em all, but if had to just based on big fights and names and time in the fight game....Hopkins....but "k" brothers are still HOF no doubt IMO

[bojangles1987]

Common sense says Hopkins, but its not the "K" brothers fault that the division has been watered down. Either way, love em all, but if had to just based on big fights and names and time in the fight game....Hopkins....but "k" brothers are still HOF no doubt IMO

You can't give them credit because you think they are good enough to beat better fighters either. Hopkins has beaten far better fighters, very often.

[The Hammer]

I am a mentally ill obsessive Klitschko hater, and i cannot accept they are great heavyweights because they are not American and black. So I made this silly alt to use to bash and ridicule them.

We know....

[UglyPug]

You can't give them credit because you think they are good enough to beat better fighters either. Hopkins has beaten far better fighters, very often.

What about the fact that Hopkins beat a lot of these fighters at weights WELL BEYOND where they should have been fighting? Winky Wright @ 170?! are u serious?! Trinidad at MIDDLEWEIGHT! Hopkins has fallen short against most of the guys he fought that were his same size - Calzaghe, Taylor TWICE, and Roy Jones. . . He also has a Draw with a guy who retired at 19-10-3 (he won the MW championship from this "world class challenger" - Segundo Mercado!)

And look at Hopkin's MW reign - are you trying to say that the competition he fought was any better than Wladimir's?!

[Wlad]

I really am a fan of the Brothers, look at how they show each other love and affection in my avatar, only eastern euro's show this kind of love to there family members.

[Wlad]

and i like the brothers am a proud eastern euro. i will post a pic like the one in my avatar with my own brother to prove myself.

[UglyPug]

IF, and this is still a big IF. . . But if Wladimir ends up breaking Joe Louis's record for HW title defenses, then I think without a doubt he should get his props. . . As far as who would win between Joe Louis and Wladimir Klitschko - well, lets say that I would feel comfortable betting my left nut on a Wladimir victory. Wladimir will be one of the HW GOATS on par with Ali, Holmes, and Louis when he retires (UNLESS he loses, then he's just a regular HOF'er).

Wladimir gets more unjust hate than Mayweather and Pacquiao. . . But that's when you know a fighter is truly great.