Better Legacy, Bernard Hopkins or Wladmir Klitschko?

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  • RubenSonny
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    #81
    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
    Hopkins, obviously but that doesn't mean Wlad and Vitali aren't very accomplished.
    They really aren't very accomplished, especially Vitali.

    Plus, the heavyweight division is considered the glamor division in boxing.
    Which means its the most popular, not the best, your pointing out exactly why HWs get overrated.

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    • KillerRightHook
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      #82
      B-Hop. His middleweight resume was outstanding and broke the record for the number of defences. This isn't close at all.

      Vitali's best win: Adamek/Sam Peter
      Wlad's best win: Haye/Chagaev

      Hopkins' best win(s): Tito, De La Hoya, Glen Johnson, Pascal, Pavlik and hopefully this weekend, Dawson.

      It's not even debatable.

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      • Mr. Invincible
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        #83
        Originally posted by Wlad
        Also i would add i strongly believe Hopkins could still go up to HW and win a belt off Povertkin an become a HW champion.
        No way, never. Maybe somebody else that has held a title at some point but not Povetkin.

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        • RL_GMA
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          #84
          Hopkins by a country mile

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          • Dirk Diggler UK
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            #85
            Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
            No way, never. Maybe somebody else that has held a title at some point but not Povetkin.
            Why not? Povetkin is crap.

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              #86
              Originally posted by uglypug
              I disagree, not with hopkins being legit in any era, cause he definitely is, but i don't see how you can say the klitschko's would not AT LEAST be competitive in any era? Can you imagine them fighting Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Joe Louis, Jack Johnson, Marciano?! They would SLAUGHTER these guys. . .

              I think Ali would decision the Klitschko's due to fleetness of hand and foot, and overall skill, but i certainly wouldn't bet the house on it. . . I think you are underestimating the Klitschko's skill level, coupled with natural athleticism. . . Wladimir is very dexterous and agile. . .
              On what do you base that??? Because they were smaller? Well you should have seen what just a little movement by Haye did with Wlad's jab or? Now you put on top of that when it comes to Frazier, Louis, Marciano real head movement, chin and guts to fight... Foreman would land one punch on Wlad and that would be it...

              Vitali is a man and has heart as well as chin... but WLAD? C'mon... he is dominating nothing... he is scarynating behind his jab that's all... he couldn't even finish Haye even though Haye just wanted to get out of that fight - so how in the world would WLAD slaughter Frazier, Foreman, Louis or Marciano???

              I think you overestimating the heart, chin and fighting guts of WLAD... Vitali at least has the attitude to keep me thinking about other Heavyweights... but WLAD c'mon...

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              • Mr. Invincible
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                #87
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Why not? Povetkin is crap.
                Too big, too active. Don't think any version of Hopkins could beat him.

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                • Rhyme 4 Rhyme
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                  #88
                  Hopkins...

                  Infinitely better resume, a top 5 MW of all time, and the recently crowned oldest champion of all time, however I wouldn't be shocked if Vitali won a major title at 46 if he remains healthy.

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Mr. Invincible
                    Too big, too active. Don't think any version of Hopkins could beat him.
                    Slow, no defence, no footwork, no real power either. He isnt that big either.

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                    • Larry the boss
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                      #90
                      lol...............

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