Keith Kizer: "Mayweather was AGAINST petitioning the commision for OSDT"

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  • V.WEBB
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    #91
    Originally posted by acidity
    Pac did say he is uncomfortable with having blood drawn close to the fight, but he wants the fight so he already agreed to the test.
    LOL. He agreed to what test? Because his strength coach said he will only do the commission test. And Freddie Roach has echoed the same thing.

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    • Deevel916
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      #92
      Originally posted by | THE KING |
      The truths been out ever since this:

      “Manny Pacquiao was just an ordinary fighter and once he got over 25, 26, he became extraordinary. That doesn’t happen in the sport of boxing so it has to be something." -Floyd Mayweather Jr.

      This tells you who's doing the ducking.. It's been known to most since the beginning..


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      • Toyman
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        #93
        Originally posted by | THE KING |
        The truths been out ever since this:

        “Manny Pacquiao was just an ordinary fighter and once he got over 25, 26, he became extraordinary. That doesn’t happen in the sport of boxing so it has to be something." -Floyd Mayweather Jr.

        This tells you who's doing the ducking.. It's been known to most since the beginning..

        Lol, but i mean surely there is nowhere to hide after its been said that mayweather didnt do nsac unlimited testing..but they will still try...lol

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        • William Blake
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          #94
          I guess "take the test" has gone the same way as "Pacquiao, you're next".

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          • John Barron
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            #95
            Originally posted by CONQUERING
            Scrambling? A Pac fan talking about scrambling..and YOU at that?



            Ok..and? That still doesn't change the fact that Manny was still requesting a 14 day cut off, that he had just rejected. Then wanted back when he knew that it was gone.





            You don't? Really? Why not go with the best possible agency to do the testing? Not only that, but how many times had NSAC done unlimited blood testing? Do you know the answers to the those questions? Its not hard to figure out that USADA is/was way more advanced than NSAC.



            I'd think it was ****** too, if I didn't understand the parameters of it too. Why throw money into the funding for the NSAC, when you could hire an outside agency with expertise in the field of blood doping. Again, this isn't that hard to grasp.




            Maybe because NSAC had never done blood doping tests and USADA has real expertise in that field? You ever thought about that...have you?



            Frankly, I don't care what third parties claim. Mayweather asked for advanced testing which includes taking blood and Manny isn't with that, nor has he ever been..thus, the fight hasn't happened. End of.





            Listen to yourself. Why does he need a cut off? That's highly su****ious...but its all fine and dandy in the Pacland. Manny wasn't willing to compromise to save the fight in the mediation. And I know that to be true because he last summer he was still talking about a cut off deal that he rejected.
            ahahah these *******s...

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            • pasawayako
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              #96
              Originally posted by Deevel916
              Why was Floyd against petitioning the NSAC for more advanced intrusive testing when both Arum and GBP were on board and even willing to pay for it?
              floyd can't pay the nsac to make him pass the test.

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              • mrjoeblive
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                #97
                Originally posted by Toyman
                Uhh..Keith Kizer just stated all parties except one were open to doing additional blood and urine testing for pac-mayweather should it ever take place. All you have to do is read:

                Just google Mayweather vs Pacquiao Update: An interview with Keith kizer
                this is where you got it WRONG. the post clearly state "both parties could PETITION the NSAC for the additional testing" and floyd already knew from the past that NSAC would not go for the additional testing. and still the whole process would have to be approved by WADA which pac and arum already said the were against. so this is a moot point trying to prove pac wanted the ost. and kizer stated ost came up out of nowhere which is just not factual at all. roach stated they knew floyd would ask for ost and it wouldnt be a problem. then later he said it was a problem. you can follow the time line of the negotiations at fighthype.com. they show all the lies and blustering of arum and roach.

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                • Toyman
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                  #98
                  =CONQUERING;11285106


                  Ok..and? That still doesn't change the fact that Manny was still requesting a 14 day cut off, that he had just rejected. Then wanted back when he knew that it was gone.
                  So that clearly means that once they had agreed to everything (as per ODH) mayweather went on vacation... yet pacquiao is ducking? I implore you - think about it some more, it's not that hard to see.





                  You don't? Really? Why not go with the best possible agency to do the testing? Not only that, but how many times had NSAC done unlimited blood testing? Do you know the answers to the those questions? Its not hard to figure out that USADA is/was way more advanced than NSAC.
                  the best possible agency? the one that failed to catch some olympians?

                  Surely, NSAC knows what drugs to test for with proper funding, and you conveniently forget mayweather was perfectly fine with even NSAC's standard test until December 2009 (that's right, as late as september 2009 it was still perfectly fine!)



                  I'd think it was ****** too, if I didn't understand the parameters of it too. Why throw money into the funding for the NSAC, when you could hire an outside agency with expertise in the field of blood doping. Again, this isn't that hard to grasp.
                  Why bring in another agency to do the testing, when the same commission that was testing you for the last 15 years was fine, and is now willing to upgrade their test for your fight?




                  Maybe because NSAC had never done blood doping tests and USADA has real expertise in that field? You ever thought about that...have you?
                  And you think NSAC does not actually know how to do one? Give them the funding, they know how to do it. USADA is surely the best, even marion jones passed their tests.



                  Frankly, I don't care what third parties claim. Mayweather asked for advanced testing which includes taking blood and Manny isn't with that, nor has he ever been..thus, the fight hasn't happened. End of.
                  Lol thats just ****** and you know it is!

                  Pacquiao asked mayweather to take the nsac's unlimited blood/urine test and mayweather wanted none of it.







                  Listen to yourself. Why does he need a cut off? That's highly su****ious...but its all fine and dandy in the Pacland. Manny wasn't willing to compromise to save the fight in the mediation. And I know that to be true because he last summer he was still talking about a cut off deal that he rejected.
                  Perhaps you should listen to yourself:

                  Pac asked mayweather to take NSAC test, but agreed to unlimited urine testing on mayweather test + a blood test with 14 day cutoff incl. a test right after the fight.

                  Mayweather outright refused Pac's test.

                  And yet, it's pac's fault....hmmmm


                  I reiterate:

                  Why use USADA when the NSAC was completely fine with mayweather until 2009? USADA has been known to let even an olympic gold medalist PED user pass their blood test.
                  Last edited by Toyman; 10-12-2011, 08:19 PM.

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                  • Toyman
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                    this is where you got it WRONG. the post clearly state "both parties could PETITION the NSAC for the additional testing" and floyd already knew from the past that NSAC would not go for the additional testing. and still the whole process would have to be approved by WADA which pac and arum already said the were against. so this is a moot point trying to prove pac wanted the ost. and kizer stated ost came up out of nowhere which is just not factual at all. roach stated they knew floyd would ask for ost and it wouldnt be a problem. then later he said it was a problem. you can follow the time line of the negotiations at fighthype.com. they show all the lies and blustering of arum and roach.
                    lol, nice try: I see you still haven't read it:

                    if they had done a joint-petition to the commission for additional drug testing where they’d cover the cost so we wouldn’t have any budget issues, we would have been happy to do that. We’re still happy to do that. Again, my understanding is Golden Boy, Top Rank, and Pacquiao were in agreement to do that, but Mr. Mayweather decided not to do that, and that’s his right.”

                    what's the next excuse? mayweather didnt want to cover the cost?

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                    • flipbjefrox
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                      #100
                      we all know by now that floyd takes fake ostd.. it was just a ploy to avoid pac

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