Keith Kizer: "Mayweather was AGAINST petitioning the commision for OSDT"

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  • Toyman
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    #81
    Originally posted by | THE KING |
    at the same Floyd fans scrambling..
    lol its almost as if theyve just realized the truth but just cant admit it for some reason.

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      #82
      Originally posted by Toyman
      perhaps you read it wrong: They petitioned the NSAC to do random blood and urine testing and all agreed except for mayweather.
      perhaps you dont understand. NSAC stated they dont do that type of testing. and if all agreed, then why is there a problem? why even petition the NSAC when there is a capable body that has expertise and can do a better job. this is just a smoke screen to duck the test.

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        #83
        Originally posted by CONQUERING


        Hilarious, just hilarious. I literally laugh out loud when you guys post this, then in the next breathe talk about Manny agreeing to unlimited BLOOD and urine tests (ie NO CUT OFF).
        Pac did say he is uncomfortable with having blood drawn close to the fight, but he wants the fight so he already agreed to the test.

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        • Toyman
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          #84
          Originally posted by mrjoeblive
          perhaps you dont understand. NSAC stated they dont do that type of testing. and if all agreed, then why is there a problem? why even petition the NSAC when there is a capable body that has expertise and can do a better job. this is just a smoke screen to duck the test.
          oh man....you didn't read it did you?

          I will make it as clear as can be: Arum and Scahefer asked the NSAC if they would be willing to do the unlimited blood/urine testing.

          NSAC said yes.

          Schaefer said yes.

          Arum said yes.

          Pacquiao said yes.

          Mayweather said no.

          Can you spot the difference?

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          • | THE KING |
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            #85
            Originally posted by Toyman
            lol its almost as if theyve just realized the truth but just cant admit it for some reason.
            The truths been out ever since this:

            “Manny Pacquiao was just an ordinary fighter and once he got over 25, 26, he became extraordinary. That doesn’t happen in the sport of boxing so it has to be something." -Floyd Mayweather Jr.

            This tells you who's doing the ducking.. It's been known to most since the beginning..

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              #86
              Originally posted by Toyman
              lol its almost as if theyve just realized the truth but just cant admit it for some reason.
              Who would want to admit that a brotha is afraid of a lil asian midget?? How times have changed lol.. It was once the scared lil Asian getting picked on now it's the brotha lol...

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                #87
                Originally posted by | THE KING |
                The truths been out ever since this:

                “Manny Pacquiao was just an ordinary fighter and once he got over 25, 26, he became extraordinary. That doesn’t happen in the sport of boxing so it has to be something." -Floyd Mayweather Jr.

                This tells you who's doing the ducking.. It's been known to most since the beginning..
                Thats all lies!! Manny is easy work easy money!!

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                • mrjoeblive
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Toyman
                  I assume you are talking about catchweights which pac only requested when he fought bigger fighters - i mean is it really that unreasonable to ask that they at least be the same weight one day before the fight? Pac would end up being outsized and outweighed on the following day anyway.

                  Besides, do you think these guys would agree to the catchweight if they really didn't think they would win? Cotto said he could make the 145 lbs. It's not like pac held a gun to his head and said he had to do it.
                  its not just the catch wts friend. that margarito fight. tony was still suspended by NSAC thus he should not have been allowed to fight in another state as the fighter has to get re-instated by the suspending commish before he can be allowed to fight in another state. but bob arum used his politcal connects to get tony a texas fight card and that sham of a jr mid wt fight was allowed to continue. if pac was so into following the commish rules 1, he would not have fought margarito and 2, he would not try to impose his own penalties for wts. so again you cant cry follow the commish when it suits you, and do as you please when it does not.

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                  • V.WEBB
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by | THE KING |
                    at the same Floyd fans scrambling..
                    Scrambling? A Pac fan talking about scrambling..and YOU at that?

                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    In july ross greenburg came out with a statement that you have to ask mayweather why the fight was not made. it was nothing to do with pacquiao.
                    Ok..and? That still doesn't change the fact that Manny was still requesting a 14 day cut off, that he had just rejected. Then wanted back when he knew that it was gone.



                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    ? I don't see how that's an issue. They [including Richard Schaefer] were fine with NSAC doing unlimited blood/urine testing. Mayweather did not want it. why?
                    You don't? Really? Why not go with the best possible agency to do the testing? Not only that, but how many times had NSAC done unlimited blood testing? Do you know the answers to the those questions? Its not hard to figure out that USADA is/was way more advanced than NSAC.

                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    That argument is ****** - the commission would know what to test for and since they would have the available funding for this particular fight there wouldn't be a problem. Besides, even the standard NSAC test was fine with mayweather until december 2009.
                    I'd think it was ****** too, if I didn't understand the parameters of it too. Why throw money into the funding for the NSAC, when you could hire an outside agency with expertise in the field of blood doping. Again, this isn't that hard to grasp.


                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    well im getting the vibe that you are deliberately avoiding the main issues which are:

                    Why is the NSAC unlimited testing not ok with mayweather when its ok with his own promoter?
                    Maybe because NSAC had never done blood doping tests and USADA has real expertise in that field? You ever thought about that...have you?

                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    How is it Pacquiao's fault when Ross greenburg even said "You have to ask mayweather"

                    Put it together:

                    Of course pac and mayweather will claim they are innocent.

                    All the third parties involved tend to indicate mayweather is the one creating the roadblocks.

                    I think you understand this but are unwilling to admit it.
                    Frankly, I don't care what third parties claim. Mayweather asked for advanced testing which includes taking blood and Manny isn't with that, nor has he ever been..thus, the fight hasn't happened. End of.



                    Originally posted by Toyman
                    Ok, well I suppose you will just continue living in denial then.

                    Pac agreed to NSAC unlimited testing, and was willing to compromise on mayweather testing by accepting unlimited urine testing with a blood cut off. When one side is willing to compromise and another isn't, it's fairly obvious who deserves more blame.

                    Pacquiao has fought since negotiations failed and none of his opponents requested extra testing. Think about it.
                    Listen to yourself. Why does he need a cut off? That's highly su****ious...but its all fine and dandy in the Pacland. Manny wasn't willing to compromise to save the fight in the mediation. And I know that to be true because he last summer he was still talking about a cut off deal that he rejected.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by mrjoeblive
                      perhaps you dont understand. NSAC stated they dont do that type of testing. and if all agreed, then why is there a problem? why even petition the NSAC when there is a capable body that has expertise and can do a better job. this is just a smoke screen to duck the test.
                      This concept has flown clear over his/her head and I'm done discussing it.

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