I'm sure we can all Agree, Floyd Mayweather Jr's career is FLAWLESS.

[IronDanHamza]

Cotto when he was undefeated. Margarito when he was a beast. P-Will when he was a beast. Pacquiao obviously. Tszyu certainly would have helped.

Realistically, if he would have done all those things, my god, there is no possible way someone could have hated on him and it's not unrealistic he would have beat all of those guys.

He could have done something ****** crazy too like move up and out-box kelly pavlik at MW. I honestly could see him outboxing pavlik. Some cherry on top accomplishment like that would have sealed the deal.

A lot of those fights weren't available for Mayweather.

Margarito obviously and Cotto (only due to retiring, not while he was active) are the only fights there that were realistically available.

And if he beat both of those he wouldn't be anywhere near the Top 20, still.

He still could argubally reach that argument if he beats Pac and Martinez but I doubt the Pac fight ever happens and same for Martinez.

As for the fights that could have actuallly been made in the last decade with Mayweather, had he won them all by 12-0 shut outs he'd still wouldn't be knocking Top 20 doors.

[FREE WILLY]

Cotto back in 2008. But even a win against Cotto wouldn't do much because its pretty much been proven that Cotto is a B+ fighter.

Bob Arum wouldn't let the fight happen, he protected Cotto from Floyd.
Just like he is doing now to Manny

[ИATAS]

A lot of those fights weren't available for Mayweather.

Margarito obviously and Cotto (only due to retiring, not while he was active) are the only fights there that were realistically available.

I'm talking about if he didn't retire and take so much time off. If he really wanted those fights he could have got both (margarito & cotto).

And if he beat both of those he wouldn't be anywhere near the Top 20, still.

He still could argubally reach that argument if he beats Pac and Martinez but I doubt the Pac fight ever happens and same for Martinez.

As for the fights that could have actuallly been made in the last decade with Mayweather, had he won them all by 12-0 shut outs he'd still wouldn't be knocking Top 20 doors.

Hindsight though. If he was the first to beat Cotto. If he was the one that destroyed Margarito. If he beat Williams when he was unbeatable and the most avoided fighter. If he was the one that beat Tszyu and not ricky hatton (this is the one fight I'd say may have not been available with Tszyu always getting hurt or having some problem).

And then like I said, did something crazy like move up to MW. If he was the one that dethroned pavlik.

If he did all those things, retired undefeated, he most certainly could be ranked top 20 without anyone getting upset. If SRL is ranked top 20, floyd doing all those things he certainly would have a case for it too.

This is all hypothetical though obviously. I'm just saying I think he's an under achiever, regardless if you think that would have put him in the top 20 or not. He could have accomplished a lot more, imho. It's his life, his career, I'm fine with that. Just sayin

[FREE WILLY]

I'm talking about if he didn't retire and take so much time off. If he really wanted those fights he could have got both (margarito & cotto).



Hindsight though. If he was the first to beat Cotto. If he was the one that destroyed Margarito. If he beat Williams when he was unbeatable and the most avoided fighter. If he was the one that beat Tszyu and not ricky hatton (this is the one fight I'd say may have not been available with Tszyu always getting hurt or having some problem).

And then like I said, did something crazy like move up to MW. If he was the one that dethroned pavlik.

If he did all those things, retired undefeated, he most certainly could be ranked top 20 without anyone getting upset. If SRL is ranked top 20, floyd doing all those things he certainly would have a case for it too.

This is all hypothetical though obviously. I'm just saying I think he's an under achiever, regardless if you think that would have put him in the top 20 or not. He could have accomplished a lot more, imho. It's his life, his career, I'm fine with that. Just sayin

If he beat Pavlik, Bhop would of ducked him thats for sure.

[ModernTalking]

Floyd career defining fight would have been against Cotto and Margarito back in 07-08. He may have won the Fighter of the decade also had he took those fight and win. It was sad watching him doing interview and seeing him dodging Cotto and Margarito. He wanted no part of Cotto or margarito...even went as far as saying that he couldn't fight Cotton because Cotto live in Puerto Rico.

[FREE WILLY]

Floyd career defining fight would have been against Cotto and Margarito back in 07-08. He may have won the Fighter of the decade also had he took those fight and win. It was sad watching him doing interview and seeing him dodging Cotto and Margarito. He wanted no part of Cotto or margarito...even went as far as saying that he couldn't fight Cotton because Cotto live in Puerto Rico.

Bob Arum protected Cotto and Margarito, he knew Floyd would destroy both of his boys. A shame really, he has passed his cowardice ways onto Pacquiao (my former hero.)

[ModernTalking]

Bob Arum wouldn't let the fight happen, he protected Cotto from Floyd.
Just like he is doing now to Manny

LOL I'm sure Arum told Mayweather to say that he couldn't fight Cotto because Cotto live in Puerto Rico.

[FREE WILLY]

LOL I'm sure Arum told Mayweather to say that he couldn't fight Cotto because Cotto live in Puerto Rico.

No he didn't want Floyd to fight Cotto because he knew Floyd would knock his ass out.

[IronDanHamza]

I'm talking about if he didn't retire and take so much time off. If he really wanted those fights he could have got both (margarito & cotto).

Do those wins really ehnace his legacy that much? Not really.

Throw fights like Williams in there. Still doesn't take him from Top 50 to Top 20 like that.

Hindsight though. If he was the first to beat Cotto. If he was the one that destroyed Margarito. If he beat Williams when he was unbeatable and the most avoided fighter. If he was the one that beat Tszyu and not ricky hatton (this is the one fight I'd say may have not been available with Tszyu always getting hurt or having some problem).

It might have made him more respected for taking those fights then he is now but again I doubt those 3 fights elevate him to that kind of ranking.

From being Top 50 amongst fighters like Hearns and Tiger and those 3 wins enaching you a whole 30 places above the likes of Ross, Canzoneri, Ortiz and great fighters of that calibur just seems unrealistic.

Tszyu wasn't available.

And then like I said, did something crazy like move up to MW. If he was the one that dethroned pavlik.

That would be incredible but the guy is a natrual 130 Lber, 126 almost.

He's a very small Jr Middleweight going up to Middleweight is something that's really unrealistic for him it's like asking Hopkins to move to HW.

If he did all those things, retired undefeated, he most certainly could be ranked top 20 without anyone getting upset. If SRL is ranked top 20, floyd doing all those things he certainly would have a case for it too.

This is all hypothetical though obviously. I'm just saying I think he's an under achiever, regardless if you think that would have put him in the top 20 or not. He could have accomplished a lot more, imho. It's his life, his career, I'm fine with that. Just sayin

I don't think he's an underachiever, really.

He's an ATG. A top 50 ATG.

Not like he's Joan Guzman or something.

I don't think he could have enhanced his legacy much more with what's available.

Besides beating Pacquaio.

[titanium]

Protected fighters often get this kind of attention.