I'm sure we can all Agree, Floyd Mayweather Jr's career is FLAWLESS.

[El_Forklift]

He went on vacations when 147 was hot, the castillo and dlh were close fights, after that it seems clean...

[WESS]

Under achiever, imo.

I say that because he could have gone down as a top 20 all time great, but he wont. I mean maybe he still can if he pulls a bhop and takes some crazy challenges late in his career but I doubt that. The retirements, extended vacations, just plain inactivity, etc., too much wasted time when he was on top of his game and the sport.

I hope your not implying that Mayweather would be top 20 all time great IF he would have fought Top Rank fighters Margarito and Cotto? Those 2 are and where never that good...

In MY book, if Floyd beats Pac he will easily be the best that ever did it and vice-a-versa. The way people hype Pac I wouldn't see WHY Floyd wouldn't EASILY get this title if he beats Pac. On the other hand Pac would just guarantee that spot if he beats Floyd.

But logically your correct if Floyd plans on being THAT great (like BHOP) he needs to stick around a lot longer (no vacations) and fighting/beating Pac would be a good start to earning and/or guaranteeing that ATG/best that EVER did it accolade.

[ИATAS]

Was Zab outclassing him outside one punch?

Are you really going to judge by one round? Zab got KO'd in round 2. Come on.

Besides, when does Zab not "outclass" a fighter in the first four rounds? He out classed cotto, outclassed floyd, outclassed clottey, but he always folds like a lawn chair, it was only a matter of time. Tszyu was applying that constant pressure that zab never does good against, the KO was going to happen eventually.

[studentofthegam]

Are you really going to judge by one round? Zab got KO'd in round 2. Come on.

Besides, when does Zab not "outclass" a fighter in the first four rounds? He out classed cotto, outclassed floyd, outclassed clottey, but he always folds like a lawn chair, it was only a matter of time. Tszyu was applying that constant pressure that zab never does good against, the KO was going to happen eventually.

Watching that fight I saw that Tszyu was more than just a little uncomfortable. He was getting beat. It wasnt back and forth like the fights you mentioned. Tszyu IMO looked a bit afraid and surprised he landed the punch. I guess we could debate all day about it.

[Brother Jay]

Under achiever, imo.

I say that because he could have gone down as a top 20 all time great, but he wont. I mean maybe he still can if he pulls a bhop and takes some crazy challenges late in his career but I doubt that. The retirements, extended vacations, just plain inactivity, etc., too much wasted time when he was on top of his game and the sport.

Nonsense. The only year the man did not compete since 1996 was 2008. You are a jealous man who needs to exaggerate because your sole criticism is petty in when observed in context.

Notice how you use the plural in every accusation? "RetirementS". "Extended vacation[/b]S". Its an attempt to to drive a point home that is weak when discussed with accuracy because all of the supposed inactivity you speak of all amounts to Floyd not competing just in 2008.

What you're suggesting is that once Floyd became the P4P#1 boxer in the world and the #1 WW champion, he ruined his career by not fighting 3 or 4 times a year despite not having anything left to prove. He had reached a point where he has earned the right to just fight in mega fights. He hasn't used tune ups in years. He just consistently fights the #1 and #2 fighters in the world who are willing to fight him. Considering that he stepped up to face world class competition in just his 18th fight, the value of the match on his resume are significantly higher. He has 42 fights but has been beating world champions with only 17 fights of padding.

On the flip side of the coin, we have Pacquiao. He has a resume of club fighters and local journeymen in southeast Asia that make up his first 40 fights. That's a lot of padding! Then when one considers that Manny's been knocked out by D fighters and outboxed by a B- fighter and has never been consistent in facing the top fighters of the majority of the divisions he's competed in.

Pacquiao is not alone. many of the so-called "greats" of the last 10-20 years have been doing the same exact thing. They compete for vacant belts, then defend them as if that belt makes them a champion. It doesn't. There is no shortcut to becoming a champion. No one can BESTOW a championship upon a fighter. They have to EARN it by beating a defending CHAMPION.

Most of the so-called great boxers don't seek fights with champions. They wait for those champions to vacate a championship, and then they run to compete for the scraps. That's a scavenger, not a champion.


When you compare quality, not the shallow padded quantity of most resumes, there is a very short list that compares to what Mayweather has accomplished.

I would challenge ANYONE to mention another fighter who has been consistently fighting the top fighters (#1,2,3) in every division and remained undefeated doing it.

You must consider:

1. Vacant belts. You must beat a champion to be a champion. This is especially important in talks about men who have are supposedly multi-division champions.

2. Catchweights. Not only catchweights, but any weight manipulation. Some fighters are stipulated to weigh in at a certain weight on fight night and technically, that's not a catchweight. The devil is in the details.

3. The condition of the opposition and what kind of wins/losses they themselves were coming off of. Was the opponent coming off a huge win? Or was he coming off of a huge loss? Believe it or not, it matters. that's why fighters slowly make a come back.

4. Heart .. which is measured by how willing a fighter is to seek competition when there is none in their own division. Staying in a dead division and racking up wins is called PADDING. BHOP had NONE for the first 12 years of his career despite fighting in a dead division .. and even then he sought WWs instead of moving up, all the way until 2006.

5. Did a fighter hide away is some secluded corner of the world defending a single belt to make a case for being the best .. or did they come the USA where the best come to box and at what point? Check out nearly every current Euro fighter in boxing today. They waited until their division got very weak before they came to the USA.

Those five points are the REAL criteria for judging a boxer .. not how heavily they were promoted.

Writers don't make fighters great, contrary to what *******s think. They can sway the casual fan because casual fans depend on the opinions of men who are paid to push an agenda. That what pundits and writers do for the most part.

When one considers that DLH owns The Ring magazine, and GBP gets a percentage of all Pacquiao promotions, the conflict of interests becomes apparent to all those willing to deal in truth.

[tatangb45]

Nonsense. The only year the man did not compete since 1996 was 2008. You are a jealous man who needs to exaggerate because your sole criticism is petty in when observed in context.

Notice how you use the plural in every accusation? "RetirementS". "Extended vacation[/b]S". Its an attempt to to drive a point home that is weak when discussed with accuracy because all of the supposed inactivity you speak of all amounts to Floyd not competing just in 2008.

What you're suggesting is that once Floyd became the P4P#1 boxer in the world and the #1 WW champion, he ruined his career by not fighting 3 or 4 times a year despite not having anything left to prove. He had reached a point where he has earned the right to just fight in mega fights. He hasn't used tune ups in years. He just consistently fights the #1 and #2 fighters in the world who are willing to fight him. Considering that he stepped up to face world class competition in just his 18th fight, the value of the match on his resume are significantly higher. He has 42 fights but has been beating world champions with only 17 fights of padding.

On the flip side of the coin, we have Pacquiao. He has a resume of club fighters and local journeymen in southeast Asia that make up his first 40 fights. That's a lot of padding! Then when one considers that Manny's been knocked out by D fighters and outboxed by a B- fighter and has never been consistent in facing the top fighters of the majority of the divisions he's competed in.

Pacquiao is not alone. many of the so-called "greats" of the last 10-20 years have been doing the same exact thing. They compete for vacant belts, then defend them as if that belt makes them a champion. It doesn't. There is no shortcut to becoming a champion. No one can BESTOW a championship upon a fighter. They have to EARN it by beating a defending CHAMPION.

Most of the so-called great boxers don't seek fights with champions. They wait for those champions to vacate a championship, and then they run to compete for the scraps. That's a scavenger, not a champion.


When you compare quality, not the shallow padded quantity of most resumes, there is a very short list that compares to what Mayweather has accomplished.

I would challenge ANYONE to mention another fighter who has been consistently fighting the top fighters (#1,2,3) in every division and remained undefeated doing it.

You must consider:

1. Vacant belts. You must beat a champion to be a champion. This is especially important in talks about men who have are supposedly multi-division champions.

2. Catchweights. Not only catchweights, but any weight manipulation. Some fighters are stipulated to weigh in at a certain weight on fight night and technically, that's not a catchweight. The devil is in the details.

3. The condition of the opposition and what kind of wins/losses they themselves were coming off of. Was the opponent coming off a huge win? Or was he coming off of a huge loss? Believe it or not, it matters. that's why fighters slowly make a come back.

4. Heart .. which is measured by how willing a fighter is to seek competition when there is none in their own division. Staying in a dead division and racking up wins is called PADDING. BHOP had NONE for the first 12 years of his career despite fighting in a dead division .. and even then he sought WWs instead of moving up, all the way until 2006.

5. Did a fighter hide away is some secluded corner of the world defending a single belt to make a case for being the best .. or did they come the USA where the best come to box and at what point? Check out nearly every current Euro fighter in boxing today. They waited until their division got very weak before they came to the USA.

Those five points are the REAL criteria for judging a boxer .. not how heavily they were promoted.

Writers don't make fighters great, contrary to what *******s think. They can sway the casual fan because casual fans depend on the opinions of men who are paid to push an agenda. That what pundits and writers do for the most part.

When one considers that DLH owns The Ring magazine, and GBP gets a percentage of all Pacquiao promotions, the conflict of interests becomes apparent to all those willing to deal in truth.

So, how many vacant belts did Pac win out of the ten titles he won?

[jkaisen41]

Floyd Mayweather has "Flawless" Career
October 10th, 2011
Samaarah choubak


Let us pay some respect to a living legend who is the unbeaten Floyd Mayweather we know it's now 42 wins with no losses, he's totally relaxed these days visiting Washington DC the other night to taste the nightlife again and inviting the whole city to join him.



One thing I like to say that he does really well is to divert all the attention to him, especially during other high profile boxing events and activities. He sure knows how to market himself and everyone just falls for it, that's a good thing in this business; market yourself as you are the best name in boxing after all. With a flawless professional record no one can deny he is undoubtedly a magnificent boxer, with some skills that are not matched by anyone else in this decade.



He still continues to stick by his guns and wants Manny Pacquiao to take the test and is fairly bored the way Oscar De La Hoya and Victor Ortiz are complaining about his fight with Ortiz recently, yawn so are we, let’s move on who's next for Mayweather? Can anyone match his skills and quality? Is anyone good enough? Does anyone have the heart, mind and soul to reach that level that Mayweather is at the moment and be allowed to step into the ring and be on the same platform as Mayweather? There may be one contender the young Amir Khan from the UK who says that Mayweather has agreed to fight him on the same day that he was having his press conference about his own fight against Peterson. Khan will move up a division from the140lb to proceed to the next weight class and perhaps fight another fight after Peterson. The options are still open for Mayweather and his camp is successful, with the recent win with Jessie Vargas from the Mayweather gym in Vegas.



Even though Mayweather is drained in riches he is surrounded by a loving and ordinary family, in this year we have a seen and heard a great amount of what he does in his spare time even it is making money on the basketball and baseball games, he has a nonprofit making foundation and its mission is to empower and encourage community alliances and impact youth leadership.



Who else is in his ranking? He's the five division world champion, where he won nine world titles in five different boxing weight classes, another fight for him has to be something the whole world wants to see and be entertained by, if not another crack at the Big Show perhaps, he's going to be the same Mayweather wherever you turn, regardless of what he does he's got a flawless record and people love him.




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You are here since October and you already have edged out an hall of fame posting career - congratulations - keep up the good work

[jkaisen41]

Underachiever given way too much importance. He could make his career by beating the FOTD. No matter what Floyd does now, he can never be the FOTD, he cant turn back time.
But beating the FOTD must be his goal now. At least one of them anyway.

One of these days the smart brit Mr. Grant will recognize and hopefully learn that FOTD isn't a human being... it's not a win nor a belt... FOTD doesn't fight back nor has the height or weight to compete... I hope one day you will understand that sir

[THREAD-KILLER]

Underachiever is the word that comes to mind.

[LeG00N]

por siempre su papa