For everyone who says Mayweather ducked Cotto

[The Gambler1981]

cotto and floyd had their ww belts at the same time. margarito was a ww beltholder already before floyd went up to ww.

these fights were there to be made. instead floyd took on a JWW for a WW fight. then retired.

If you only look at one side you can believe that, but it really isn't the whole story~

[The Gambler1981]

if floyd really wanted to fight cotto and margarito it would've happened.

everyone knew the retirement was a sham... its just too convenient that when cotto and marg were tearing through WW, floyd decided to duck out

Yea Floyd was going to come back, those fights not happening has little to do with Floyd and those fihgters it has to do with Floyd and his situation with Top Rank.

Like I said Oscar was next if Floyd didn't retire, so Cotto-Margarito would have happened and Cotto would have been aced out right there, FLoyd would have been banking so it is likely he would have waited until next May to fight meaning Margarito probably would have fought Mosley we all know how that went.

What changes if Floyd didn't retire work it out~

[KickAzz]

If you only look at one side you can believe that, but it really isn't the whole story~

its not the whole story, but if floyd really really wanted those fights as much as cotto and marg wanted to fight him, the fight would've been made

[Chopper417]

Floyd is not GBP, Floyd has not fought a Top Rank guy since he dipped on them. I fail to see what that has to do with GBP Top Rank feud.

Floyd-Top Rank feud is completely different, the only thing GBP has to do with that is that Floyd wanted Oscar during the TR-GBP feud so Floyd had to make a move or not fight Oscar, the rest as they say is history Floyd went from being the best fighter ever, to some clown ducking every challenge possible all according to Bob Arum.

Exactly, it shocks me how EVERY fighter that Floyd supposedly ducked is from Top Rank and people think that with Arum's history with Floyd that is just some coincidence.

[The Gambler1981]

its not the whole story, but if floyd really really wanted those fights as much as cotto and marg wanted to fight him, the fight would've been made

I have never seen that Cotto rally wanted that fight, they never tried to make that fight occur, Margarito they did but the timing was not right and then shit happened and Floyd didn't want to give Arum one thin dime off his back.

[KickAzz]

Yea Floyd was going to come back, those fights not happening has little to do with Floyd and those fihgters it has to do with Floyd and his situation with Top Rank.

Like I said Oscar was next if Floyd didn't retire, so Cotto-Margarito would have happened and Cotto would have been aced out right there, FLoyd would have been banking so it is likely he would have waited until next May to fight meaning Margarito probably would have fought Mosley we all know how that went.

What changes if Floyd didn't retire work it out~

I doubt Oscar would've given floyd the rematch because oscar wasn't going to let floyd get a bigger purse than him.

its hard not to imagine that if floyd told cotto or marg that he wanted to fight them next, they wouldn't drop whoever they were fighting to fight him, just like cotto and marg were willing to drop each other to get dlh.

but dlh wanted cotto to get beat up a little bit by marg first before he'd fight cotto. big miscalculation cause cotto lost and dlh would never fight marg and ended up getting embarassed by pac.

bottomline is if floyd wanted to fight cotto or marg, it would've happened

[KickAzz]

Exactly, it shocks me how EVERY fighter that Floyd supposedly ducked is from Top Rank and people think that with Arum's history with Floyd that is just some coincidence.

arum has shown that money is bigger than his feuds. arum has set aside his feuds with King and GBP to make big money fights. I don't think the obstacle was arum.

floyd just didn't want to fight cotto or marg for whatever reason

[The Gambler1981]

I doubt Oscar would've given floyd the rematch because oscar wasn't going to let floyd get a bigger purse than him.

its hard not to imagine that if floyd told cotto or marg that he wanted to fight them next, they wouldn't drop whoever they were fighting to fight him, just like cotto and marg were willing to drop each other to get dlh.

but dlh wanted cotto to get beat up a little bit by marg first before he'd fight cotto. big miscalculation cause cotto lost and dlh would never fight marg and ended up getting embarassed by pac.

bottomline is if floyd wanted to fight cotto or marg, it would've happened

That was why Floyd retired, he wanted a bigger cut Oscar didn't give it to him. Floyd thought eventually Oscar is going to have to come to me it didn't play out like that as someone else got the shot and beat the crap out of Oscar.

Bottom line is those guys worked for a guy Floyd wanted nothing to do with that had everything to do with why those fights didn't occur. If they wanted Floyd they should have followed Floyd's lead and left, Floyd wasn't chasing those guys those guys were chasing Floyd the guy getting chased doesn't really have to do anything and if the guys doing the chasing are unwilling to meet the demands then they aren't getting the fight so is the rule of the boxing jungle. Those guys could have made it happen two sides to that coin~

[KickAzz]

I have never seen that Cotto rally wanted that fight, they never tried to make that fight occur, Margarito they did but the timing was not right

of course cotto wanted the fight. he even said so but was coy about it. he wasn't going to beg and chase floyd around like khan currently is doing.

and then shit happened and Floyd didn't want to give Arum one thin dime off his back.

that's floyd's problem and a very convenient excuse, and not arum's problem. arum would've made the fight if it was available.

[The Gambler1981]

of course cotto wanted the fight. he even said so but was coy about it. he wasn't going to beg and chase floyd around like khan currently is doing.



that's floyd's problem and a very convenient excuse, and not arum's problem. arum would've made the fight if it was available.

Saying and trying to make it happen for real are two different things.

Yea it is Arum's problem because he was the guy bad mouthing Floyd every chance he got and that has an unresolved civil case because Floyd felt he owed him a ton of money (which Arum admitted that he did owe Floyd money), do you want to work with a guy that smeared you every chance they got and owed you money already. Arum should have kept his yap shut and maybe things would have went different. Two sides of this coin quit looking at one.