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  • #11
    Originally posted by Bombs View Post
    Hopkins is the biggest scum of a person this planet has seen. He would headbutt, elbow and clinch his way to a win or at least try to. **** hopkins and his entire family he shouldn't get a shot at Sergio.

    I hate that guy. He is a biotch.
    It's not like Martinez would be some young spring chicken, and he may have some old school trick that could nullify Hopkins rough house tactics.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Nature Boy View Post
      lol...yeah but he's only giving up 5 pounds though. Not like he's making a ultra sacrifice himself.
      but he would be 47 years old. He should get some credit. Maybe not full, depending on how Martinez looks, but sergio himself has weighed between 165-170+ on fight night it's not that huge of a difference.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by The Nature Boy View Post
        It's not like Martinez would be some young spring chicken,
        he's not but he is in his prime right now. Hopkins at age 36 was at his absolute prime as well, both were late bloomers.

        Personally I'd much rather see a hopkins-bute fight though, IF hopkins gets past bad chad first.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The Nature Boy View Post
          It's not like Martinez would be some young spring chicken, and he may have some old school trick that could nullify Hopkins rough house tactics.
          i don't know man hopkins can always just press his size on sergio and wear him down...thats all he really needs to do...its that old adage...great big man beats good little man every time...lol

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
            but he would be 47 years old. He should get some credit. Maybe not full, depending on how Martinez looks, but sergio himself has weighed between 165-170+ on fight night it's not that huge of a difference.
            I'd give BHOP some credit because it's easier to go up in weight compared to coming down. I don't know how much it would affect sergios speed though.

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            • #16
              I think the Barker fight proved that Martinez is not a strong middleweight. So what would he be as a lhw?? Weak. Weak as hell. His punches would have no effect. I mean, even as a jmw he wasn't exactly knocking out guys left and right, was he? He has his share of kos but many came late in the fight and from accumulations. He has a good punch to the body. But except for the Williams ko, which was just the perfect punch landed at the right time, he never knocked out anyone with just one punch.

              Ok, thats about the power. Now about the size and speed. While SGM would def be a tricky opponent for Bhop with his speed, ultimately he couldn't just waltz around him and he'd get dragged in into exchanges with Hopkins sooner or later and I believe Hopkins is still stronger than him there. So I say it would be a mismatch, plus nobody knows if Hopkins is taking anything illegal, he might be.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by The Nature Boy View Post
                If Sergio changed his mind, and decided to accept Hopkins challenge and lost, would Hopkins get credit for the win?
                hopkins got credit for beating pavlik and winky at 170 lbs... so I'd say yes

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                  he's not but he is in his prime right now. Hopkins at age 36 was at his absolute prime as well, both were late bloomers.

                  Personally I'd much rather see a hopkins-bute fight though, IF hopkins gets past bad chad first.
                  I'd prefer Hopkins/Froch! Froch wouldn't shy away from the trash talk either.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Post
                    hell yeah at 59 years old he better get some credit.
                    lmao....nice...funny...but of course he should get credit... if he fights a washed up homeless guy off the streets during a sanctioned boxing fight..he should get credit..it all counts

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                    • #20
                      yes he would - he gets credit for beating pavlik at 170, so he would get even more credit for beating the guy who beat pavlik, sergio (margarito's son).

                      pavlik went up from 160 (back when he was still a natural middleweight with no weight issues - only rehydrating to 170) and fought hopkins, SO WHY CAN'T SERGIO?1 OH YEAH! I know why! He is a hoe-cake! I just wish his father, Antonio Margarito, could get a hold of his ass again to teach him his lessons as his son.

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