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  • americanbot
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    #181
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    B-Hop pro debut was at LHW. After that he campaigned at MW...Never fought at JMW. The lowest he came was at a catch-weight of 158 against Oscar. And, he actually came in at 157 to prove a point.

    He also called out smaller fighters like Oscar numerous times(but everyone wanted Oscar, just like everyone wants Floyd and Pac. For the same reasons), Mosley, and Vargas to name a few.
    great boxrec trolling

    hopkins pro debut was just above LHW in which he was out of shape & FAT you clown hahahahaha (in a fight that he lost)



    i don't think that jr. welterweight was a division back in the 90's so theres no way hopkins could have fought at jr. welterweight. he fought at 155 to 156

    martinez had more room to move up because he started at welterweight but he's only moved up 3 divisions.......martinez walks around at 170 plus. hopkins doesn't walk around at cruseirweight & heavyweight. moving to heavyweight is a more drastic move vs moving to 168 for martinez. ITS NOT THE SAME THING.
    Last edited by americanbot; 10-03-2011, 02:08 PM.

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    • adp023
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      #182
      Originally posted by LAFIRPO
      Are you kidding me? This was over 10 years ago. I am not desperate enough to research and prove point. I have no reason to lie. You can believe me or not. But I am telling you, Hopkins was calling out Oscar while Oscar was at 147. Again, why wouldn't he? If you had the possibility of making 8 million dolloars in one fight instead of making the 600,000 you make regularly? WOuld you take it? Of course you would. That's why Hopkins called out Oscar, and that is why Sergio is calling out Manny and Floyd.
      Obviously you don't like to use FACTS/legitimate documentation to back up your argument.

      Regardless, you can't compare Hopkins with Martinez because Hopkins is willing to fight smaller or bigger guys for a payday. It is now FACT that Martinez is only willing to face smaller guys. Hopkins > Martinez

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      • richardt
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        #183
        Martinez at 160 says "no no no no no no I can't fight a guy 8 pounds heavier but yes yes yes yes yes yes please bring me 143 pound Pac". And to think his mental midget **** riding team of morons actually support this!

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        • Kilrain
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          #184
          Originally posted by southpaw!!
          but yet its ok for him to call out pac who walks around at 144?!?!?!

          sergio got the situation reversed on him and team martinez acting scared.

          talking about the pot calling the kettle black
          Exactly. Nothing wrong with him calling out Pacquiao, whom he dwarves in size and who is fighting in his eighth weight division, whereas Martinez is fighting in his third.

          The hypocrisy is staggering

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          • richardt
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            #185
            Some ignorants have no problem with Martinez stepping into the ring at 165 (22 pounds higher) to face a 143 pound fighter in Pac but cry like little babies when asked why he won't fight a guy 8 pounds higher!!! If ******ity reigned supreme, Martinez ****riders would rule the world.
            Last edited by richardt; 10-03-2011, 02:20 PM.

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            • jrosales13
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              #186
              Originally posted by americanbot
              great boxrec trolling

              hopkins pro debut was just above LHW in which he was out of shape & FAT you clown hahahahaha (in a fight that he lost)



              i don't think that jr. welterweight was a division back in the 90's so theres no way hopkins could have fought at jr. welterweight. he fought at 155 to 156

              martinez had more room to move up because he started at welterweight but he's only moved up 3 divisions.......martinez walks around at 170 plus. hopkins doesn't walk around at cruseirweight & heavyweight. moving to heavyweight is a more drastic move vs moving to 168 for martinez. ITS NOT THE SAME THING.
              Obviously the point went over your head.

              You don't think that Jr Welterweight was a division back in the 90's? I don't know even know what that means? Because, it can't mean what it sounds like, can it?

              What?

              Anyways, I believe Hopkins walks around at CW. I seriously doubt he would put on weight to fight at LHW.

              And, no one saying he should move up to HW. Again, obviously the point went over your head. Maybe because you read the end of the conversation or maybe because I word it wrong, just like there wasn't a Jr welterweight division in the 90's might be something that you word it wrong. Hence why I didn't get your point about that statement.

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              • americanbot
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                #187
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Obviously the point went over your head.

                You don't think that Jr Welterweight was a division back in the 90's? I don't know even know what that means? Because, it can't mean what it sounds like, can it?

                What?

                Anyways, I believe Hopkins walks around at CW. I seriously doubt he would put on weight to fight at LHW.

                And, no one saying he should move up to HW. Again, obviously the point went over your head. Maybe because you read the end of the conversation or maybe because I word it wrong, just like there wasn't a Jr welterweight division in the 90's might be something that you word it wrong. Hence why I didn't get your point about that statement.
                i obviously meant "jr. middleweight" if you can read between the lines.........cruiser weight is 200.........

                hopkins fights at lightheavyweight. you think that hopkins naturally walks around at cruiser weight? LOOOOOOOOOOL that would mean he walks around at almost 30 pounds heavier then his fighting weight WTF? HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA what a joke. on top of that hopkins is a FITNESS FREAK

                Martinez is going from 160 to 168. light heavyweight to cruiser is drastic......it's a 20 plus weight gain. martinez would only be going up 8 pounds WTF. also heavyweight is that much more drastic.......

                your points have been defused because martinez is obviously the one being the hypocrite in this situation & comparing hopkins weight jump to martinez's makes little to no sense. there are new found divisions in martinezs weight jump........they were not there for hopkins....when hopkins moved up he fought world class opponents.......martinez fought cab drivers & bums.

                stop the madness already.
                Last edited by americanbot; 10-03-2011, 02:45 PM.

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                • Guerrero360
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                  #188
                  Correct me if i'm wrong, but isnt Martinez already fighting in a division where he was "Small" coming into and also a underdog in his MW Champion fight and also in his defense with PW. I don't think many people would find it fair to fight Mayweather or Pac because they are seen strickly as 147lbs, but I can't blame him for trying he is in his late 30s and no one at 168 will bring in the money that they would. He could try to fight Hopkins which would probly bring in good money and get dominated, but that would do more harm then good imo. Aslo, when was the last time that Mayweather or Pac have fought as underdogs or at least in below 4-1 odds? Lastly, I think Martinez could really build himself into a real superstar within the 154-160 divisions, since i think no one has a problem of him fighting any 154lbs or 160lbs fighter. He could really make a name for himself with the likes of Angulo, Kirkland, Pirog, Canelo, Chavez jr. ect. that is if anyone of them ever decide to fight him. My 2 cents,
                  Last edited by Guerrero360; 10-03-2011, 02:47 PM. Reason: Mistake with Pirog, He has been asking for this fight and i hope they give it to him.

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                  • Rustyboy82
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                    #189
                    The only reason Martinez calls out Floyd and Manny is because they're the only real cashcows that are close to his weight. Fair enough he doesn't want to fight at 168. He's a 154 fighter who had to go looking for fights at MW. Martinez is just unlucky that there's few big fights in his division. He could have a decent career if he got 2 or 3 fights against the likes of Cotto, Angulo, Canelo, JCC jr, etc. No real definers in there though.

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                    • chiguy91
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Rustyboy82
                      The only reason Martinez calls out Floyd and Manny is because they're the only real cashcows that are close to his weight. Fair enough he doesn't want to fight at 168. He's a 154 fighter who had to go looking for fights at MW. Martinez is just unlucky that there's few big fights in his division. He could have a decent career if he got 2 or 3 fights against the likes of Cotto, Angulo, Canelo, JCC jr, etc. No real definers in there though.
                      yup, that's pretty much martinez's situation, he's more of a light middleweight fighting at middleweight. i think he should just continue fighting at 160 unless some decent names like the ones you stated want to fight him. there's pirog and sturm who can bring in money if they stage it in europe, and then chavez jr if they stage it in cali or mexico. either way, martinez should forget about pac an may cause they'll never do it, and he's already said (or his team) that they're not interested in fighting at smw. so that should leave him at middleweight, unless he's able to fight some big names at 154.

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