Comments Thread For: Team Sergio Martinez: We Will Never Let Him Fight at 168!

[jrosales13]

point has still been made good sir. . . sergio is a poser. . . he claims he doesn't care about money and glory only. . . well, POPPA TONY taught him that glory lies at giving away advantages in weight, not having the advantage. . .

He should LISTEN TO POPPA TONY - don't you agree? don't you think his daddy taught him a real proper lesson in the beat-down he gave him? most sons learn to respect their fathers, and learn to live by the lessons they were taught!!

Hos is the point is still good when your blabbing about something that's totally irrelevant to what I'm replying to?

You got an idiot who's practically saying that Martinez should do what B-Hop and fight 2 weight-classes higher. Which I replied to, Martinez has fought 2 weight-classes higher...

Which you mentioned about what Floyd and Pac has fought and something a power and irrelevant crap. And, claiming whatever point you trying to make is still good?

Again since obviously you couldn't read what I replied to. A poster is insinuating that Martinez should do what B-Hop has done and fight 2 weight-classes higher. Now I'm gonna try and give YOU the benefit of the doubt of being a better and more knowledgeable poster than that idiot. And, ask you has Martinez done what B-hop has done in fighting 2 weight-class higher? Yes or no, it's simple question.

[LAFIRPO]

but look what hopkins proved by that point?! sergio brings NOTHING to the table like hopkins brought at that point in his career. . .

just look at the totality of his resume, and what do you see? who is his best victory, and how good was that opponent?

sergio is still at the point of BUILDING his legacy. . . right now he has no legacy. . .

What are youtalking about? Hopkins for years fought without getting any attention by the media. Hopkins used to fight for small ass purses on Showtime while nobody watched. It was only after he fought Trinidad that Hopkins became famous.

[Eaner0919]

165 isnt the middle. ur math is alittle off

160 and 175. whats in between that? 167.5 or a nice round number of 168....

wait?!?! isnt 168 a division?!?!? i could be wrong. but there is alot of fighters at 168. fighters like bute, ward, kessler, froch

but of course.... take a catchweight bout against a fighter 2 divsions lower... cause it wouldnt be fair if sergio moved up 1 division

you need to learn how to read...

here is the original post:

"Martinez has been on record as saying he would be willing to drop to 150 to fight either. That is right in between Junior Middle and Welter

Has Hopkins expressed a willingness to meet Martinez at 165? right in the middle of Super Middle and Middleweight?

nope he states 170."

so what part of 165 being INBETWEEN Super Middle and Middle didn't you understand?

and you saying that there are a lot of fighters at 168 is a lot like telling both Floyd and Manny there are a lot of fighters at 154 to choose from but hardly anyone really tasks either to challenge them now do they?

this isn't solely about defending Martinez I really care less where he fights I am not a fan or a hater of his

however if people are indeed asking him to move up when he and his team feel against it then the same heat should be applied to Mayweather and Pacquiao since the 147lb pool seems to be drying up

[jrosales13]

but look what hopkins proved by that point?! sergio brings NOTHING to the table like hopkins brought at that point in his career. . .

just look at the totality of his resume, and what do you see? who is his best victory, and how good was that opponent?

sergio is still at the point of BUILDING his legacy. . . right now he has no legacy. . .

I think I'm giving you too much respect. I don't know if I'm wording this wrong or whatever.

I'm not claiming Martinez to be as great as Hopkins...So whether has Hopkins prove himself or not is irrelevant to what I'm referring to.

If Martinez brings something to the table is irrelevant to what I'm referring to.

So now that we got that out of the way. Lets go to what I was referring to, shall we?

You got a guy insinuating that B-Hop has fought at JMW...Not true.

You got that same guy insinuating that Martinez should do what B-Hop did and move up 2 weight-classes higher and Martinez has fought 2 weight-classes higher. Did he not?

[Eaner0919]

What about Bute calling him out at 165? I'm sure they could negotiate it to 164 or 3.
If he can drop down to JMW then fine... 154 doesn't seem to be a problem for him since he can eat whatever he wants and cheesecake.

a Bute fight would be great and I think Bute even said on our radio show he would drop as low as 164 if Martinez wanted the fight

[adp023]

Hopkins was calling Oscar out when Oscar was 147. I even remember one of the quotes Hopkins used to get Oscar to fight at 160.

It was something to the effect of, "Oscar has to stop eating like a supermodel and fight me at one 160".

Link us that article with the date on it.

[UglyPug]

Hos is the point is still good when your blabbing about something that's totally irrelevant to what I'm replying to?

You got an idiot who's practically saying that Martinez should do what B-Hop and fight 2 weight-classes higher. Which I replied to, Martinez has fought 2 weight-classes higher...

Which you mentioned about what Floyd and Pac has fought and something a power and irrelevant crap. And, claiming whatever point you trying to make is still good?

Again since obviously you couldn't read what I replied to. A poster is insinuating that Martinez should do what B-Hop has done and fight 2 weight-classes higher. Now I'm gonna try and give YOU the benefit of the doubt of being a better and more knowledgeable poster than that idiot. And, ask you has Martinez done what B-hop has done in fighting 2 weight-class higher? Yes or no, it's simple question.

yes, he has moved up from middleweight from welterweight. . . but has he accomplished ANYTHING NEAR what hopkins has? NO. . . so it doesn't matter. . . At this point in his career, he is a natural middleweight. . . He has to cut a lot of weight to make 154. . .

Basically Sergio has the same mindset as Arum, and everyone else who maximizes profit and minimizes risks. . . he is not some "pound for pound people's champ". . . he's just a good boxer who has been matched very well. . I just want people to admit that he's simply out for money, and cares nothing about "glory" or being a "people's champ" - HES THE SAME SCHTICK!!

And also HIS FATHER IS POPPA TONY!!

[LAFIRPO]

you need to learn how to read...

here is the original post:

"Martinez has been on record as saying he would be willing to drop to 150 to fight either. That is right in between Junior Middle and Welter

Has Hopkins expressed a willingness to meet Martinez at 165? right in the middle of Super Middle and Middleweight?

nope he states 170."

so what part of 165 being INBETWEEN Super Middle and Middle didn't you understand?

and you saying that there are a lot of fighters at 168 is a lot like telling both Floyd and Manny there are a lot of fighters at 154 to choose from but hardly anyone really tasks either to challenge them now do they?

this isn't solely about defending Martinez I really care less where he fights I am not a fan or a hater of his

however if people are indeed asking him to move up when he and his team feel against it then the same heat should be applied to Mayweather and Pacquiao since the 147lb pool seems to be drying up

You're absolutely right. I am not saying that Manny and Floyd should fight Martinez becuase they are at the 174 division and they have every right to stay at that weight class and defend it.

What I am saying is that I understand Martinez's desire to fight Manny and Floyd becuase that is where the money is. And I know enough about the middle weight division to know that there have numerous times where smaller 147 pounders have gone up to challenge the middle weight champion. That is a fact. Manny and Floyd don't have to do nothing but stay at their division and make tons of money, but at the same time I can't blame Sergio for wanting a piece of that money. If you, I, or anyone else were in his shoes, you would do the same.

[Eaner0919]

Not true at all. Hopkins was always calling out De La Hoya, before De La Hoya even entertained fighting Hopkins. For the same reason Sergio Martinez is calling out Manny and Floyd; Money. Hopkins knew the money was with De La Hoya and Trinidad, just like Sergio knows the money is with Manny and Floyd.

this is the truer statement than DLH calling Hopkins out

[LAFIRPO]

I think I'm giving you too much respect. I don't know if I'm wording this wrong or whatever.

I'm not claiming Martinez to be as great as Hopkins...So whether has Hopkins prove himself or not is irrelevant to what I'm referring to.

If Martinez brings something to the table is irrelevant to what I'm referring to.

So now that we got that out of the way. Lets go to what I was referring to, shall we?

You got a guy insinuating that B-Hop has fought at JMW...Not true.

You got that same guy insinuating that Martinez should do what B-Hop did and move up 2 weight-classes higher and Martinez has fought 2 weight-classes higher. Did he not?

Haha, I just read your post, and that is exactly what I was going to say.