Comments Thread For: Cunningham: They Stopped The Fight To Take My Title!

[CubanGuyNYC]

no he was wobbly but still coherent. does a ref have to stop every fight because a guy is a little wobbly? he gave him a chance and he took it. no point in going back in time and saying he should have stopped it just because cunningham started dominating. he could have stopped it but he didn't. the more important question is why did he stop it in the 6th when the cuts weren't an issue. the cut was certainly a lot worse in the 3rd and 4th yet no stoppage then. obviously the fight was getting away from hernandez and the corner demanded it to be stopped because he was more than likely going to lose. sauerland had the judges paid off just in case hernandez needed them and he did so they used them as backup.

How would the cuts be worse earlier in the fight? They could only get worse as the fight wore on. If you regard bleeding as a sign of "worse", then you're right. But the fact is that they could only deepen and widen as the fight continued. The human body just doesn't heal that fast.

All this said, I happen to agree that Hernandez's corner pulled the plug when they felt Yoan Pablo fading....

[daggum]

Somewhat, yes. But, to play "devil's advocate", we don't know how bad or deep that cut was, regardless of whether it had stopped bleeding. Nonetheless, it sure looks like Hernandez's corner wanted to call it an early night, knowing they were up on the cards.

yes we do. it showed hernandez's face and the cuts weren't bad at all. they were barely bleeding if at all when the fight was stopped. i don't get it. you should have a legitimate reason to stop a world title fight and they didn't. they cheated in my mind. cunningham might have been fortunate to survive round 1 but they flat out cheated.

[BennyST]

Somewhat, yes. But, to play "devil's advocate", we don't know how bad or deep that cut was, regardless of whether it had stopped bleeding. Nonetheless, it sure looks like Hernandez's corner wanted to call it an early night, knowing they were up on the cards.

Fights don't get stopped unless it's still bleeding badly. If it wasn't bleeding then it shouldn't have ever been stopped.The whole point of stopping a fight from a cut is because blood seeps into your eye which makes one fighter have an unfair advantage.

If it's from a punch then one guy has been good enough to screw up the other fighter and deserves to win, but if it's from a headbutt then there was nothing either could do. Unless it's Vitali Klitschko bad, but that was bleeding very badly, with no blood then it should never be stopped. It's only because of bad bleeding that a title fight should get stopped.

[CubanGuyNYC]

it's pretty ******ed. cunningham easily won 3 rounds without question. 2 and 4 were close and obviously 1 wasn't. i don't see any possible way you can have hernandez winning 5 rounds. i could be wrong but i doubt it and yes the promoter obviously had a hand in stopping it unfairly.

Steve "easily won three rounds without question"? I utterly disagree. Any round that Cunningham might've won, other than the sixth, is quite open to debate. I have the second even. "USS" was pressing the action and looked the more confident fighter, but he wasn't landing more or better shots. Hernandez was winning that fight on the cards.

[IronDanHamza]

Thank God I didn't go through with betting on Cunningham.

I really had no confidence in him. I don't really rate him.

[CubanGuyNYC]

yes we do. it showed hernandez's face and the cuts weren't bad at all. they were barely bleeding if at all when the fight was stopped. i don't get it. you should have a legitimate reason to stop a world title fight and they didn't. they cheated in my mind. cunningham might have been fortunate to survive round 1 but they flat out cheated.

They pulled a b*tch maneuver, but "flat out cheated"? No. They saw Hernandez was fading and decided to pull the plug, knowing that Yoan Pablo was up.

[BennyST]

How would the cuts be worse earlier in the fight? They could only get worse as the fight wore on. If you regard bleeding as a sign of "worse", then you're right. But the fact is that they could only deepen and widen as the fight continued. The human body just doesn't heal that fast.

All this said, I happen to agree that Hernandez's corner pulled the plug when they felt Yoan Pablo fading....

That's not true at all. Many, many cuts are worse when they happen and if a cut man is good and stops the blood then it's fine and can get 'better' because the bleeding is stopped. Some guys just don't target the cut well, don't bleed badly when it clots and have tough skin.

Many reasons. However, if a cut is not bleeding and there is no possible eye damage etc, the fight should absolutely go on.

[daggum]

How would the cuts be worse earlier in the fight? They could only get worse as the fight wore on. If you regard bleeding as a sign of "worse", then you're right. But the fact is that they could only deepen and widen as the fight continued. The human body just doesn't heal that fast.

All this said, I happen to agree that Hernandez's corner pulled the plug when they felt Yoan Pablo fading....

you can make cuts better by doing work in the corner. you can stop it from bleeding, stretching etc... it was bleeding profusely and they fixed him up pretty good. the cuts weren't an issue at all at the time of the stoppage.

[daggum]

They pulled a b*tch maneuver, but "flat out cheated"? No. They saw Hernandez was fading and decided to pull the plug, knowing that Yoan Pablo was up.

how can you pull the plug if you have no basis to stop the fight on? you can't just stop fighting because you don't feel like fighting anymore. that's abandonment and a tko victory for your opponent. they subverted the rules and used cuts that weren't an issue to go to the cards. any ref/commision that wasn't on the take would never allow them to stop fighting because of those little cuts that were no risk to him.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Fights don't get stopped unless it's still bleeding badly. If it wasn't bleeding then it shouldn't have ever been stopped.The whole point of stopping a fight from a cut is because blood seeps into your eye which makes one fighter have an unfair advantage.

If it's from a punch then one guy has been good enough to screw up the other fighter and deserves to win, but if it's from a headbutt then there was nothing either could do. Unless it's Vitali Klitschko bad, but that was bleeding very badly, with no blood then it should never be stopped. It's only because of bad bleeding that a title fight should get stopped.

Not entirely true. I have seen, in the course of my life, many traumatic injuries...the likes of which would make your stomach turn. I can assure you, without reservation, that a terrible, flesh tearing injury doesn't always gush like a faucet. (Many times they do, but not always.)

I happen to believe that the fight was stopped because Hernandez's people saw him fading (I've already said so), but it's entirely possible that the stoppage can be objectively justified.