Comments Thread For: Cunningham: They Stopped The Fight To Take My Title!

[daggum]

Not entirely true. I have seen, in the course of my life, many traumatic injuries...the likes of which would make your stomach turn. I can assure you, without reservation, that a terrible, flesh tearing injury doesn't always gush like a faucet. (Many times they do, but not always.)

I happen to believe that the fight was stopped because Hernandez's people saw him fading (I've already said so), but it's entirely possible that the stoppage can be objectively justified.

yes i know the type of cuts you are talking about. they go so deep that no blood comes out. this was not the case at all. these were standard cuts that had been patched up and they used that as an excuse to stop the fight. the ref/officials shouldn't have let them of course but they did because they are corrupt.

[CubanGuyNYC]

That's not true at all. Many, many cuts are worse when they happen and if a cut man is good and stops the blood then it's fine and can get 'better' because the bleeding is stopped. Some guys just don't target the cut well, don't bleed badly when it clots and have tough skin.

Many reasons. However, if a cut is not bleeding and there is no possible eye damage etc, the fight should absolutely go on.

you can make cuts better by doing work in the corner. you can stop it from bleeding, stretching etc... it was bleeding profusely and they fixed him up pretty good. the cuts weren't an issue at all at the time of the stoppage.

You guys are confusing the issue of bleeding with tissue healing. Sure, if you regard "stopping bleeding" with betterment, you're right. But an avulsion to the flesh doesn't get better in such a short span of time, especially when the area is taking further impact. The body just doesn't work that way. This is Yoan Pablo Hernandez we're talking about, not the "T-1000" (from "Terminator 2").

[CubanGuyNYC]

Thank God I didn't go through with betting on Cunningham.

I really had no confidence in him. I don't really rate him.

Yeah, Dan, Cunningham isn't all that, and Hernandez isn't bad. I would never have considered betting on that fight...for either man.

[CubanGuyNYC]

yes i know the type of cuts you are talking about. they go so deep that no blood comes out. this was not the case at all. these were standard cuts that had been patched up and they used that as an excuse to stop the fight. the ref/officials shouldn't have let them of course but they did because they are corrupt.

If I haven't made myself clear, please allow me to do so now: I agree that the cut was probably used as a pretext to stop the fight early. My point is that none of us were standing over Hernandez with a close view of his injury. In fact, two doctors examining Yoan Pablo might have conflicting opinions about whether the fight should've been stopped. Insisting that Hernandez should've continued is a plausible suggestion, but ultimately futile. Hell, I've seen guys intensely argue that Vitali Klitschko should've been allowed to continue versus Lennox Lewis with those gashes.... (I happen to be of the opinion that it was a good stoppage.)

[Mr. Invincible]

He maybe could, even though I think what happened was BS today Cunningham didn't look as sharp or as fast, he is after all what 35? Huck can if anything crack and I think he was only 19 or 20 when Cunningham beat him. That compounded with Cunningham's dodgy chin could result in a ko win for a matured more experienced Huck.

That's a good assessment. It's about what I think too. Not a fan of either tho.

[Mr. Invincible]

What do you mean he lost easily. He beat the count got himself together and started to take over the fight and was on his way to a victory. Hernandez was lucky the fight was stopped cause Cunningham was walking him down and had a lot left in the tank while Hernandez looked tired.

I didn't code that in some foreign language. It's exactly as I said in plain english. Hernandez won most of the early rounds and knocked him down and as far as I'm concerned, out. That's an easy win for the duration the fight went. Hell I don't need to say it, the cards did. Go argue with the judges.

[Mr. Invincible]

just rewatched this fight.
obviously way too wide of scoring by judges. and the tip off was it taking judges so long to tabulate score. camera was on on female judge for the longest time and she done nothing till camera was off of her.
cunningham got ripped off. funny... all three judges were limeys.

And why in your opinion would the 'limeys' favor a Rican over an American? Cunningham is on his way out, just accept the loss and get over it.

[Tobi.G]

Due to the serious cuts it was right to stop the fight and go to the scorecards. I had Hernandez winning 3-4 rounds plus the knockdown so he was the right winner. Cunningham always had serious knockdown issues, this time he barely made the count. Hernadez will face Troy Ross next who is a hard puncher and a solid fighter that will be another big fight for Hernandez.
Imo Hernandez should use his skills a bit more and not put all his power in all of his punches or he will tire in the later rounds. Wegner makes him fight a bit like Abraham but with his skill and talent he doesnt need that.

[Superflo777]

In my opinion, Cunningham was lucky he wasn't DQ'd or at least deducted points when he made that 2 headbutts, one on the left and one on the right side of Hernandez' face, which looked clearly intentional in the slo-mo replays (the angle which the ref didn't see it from).

Besides that, I saw Hernandez pretty much controlling the fight throughout most of it, and he hurt Cunningham badly on some occasions. I think he was the better fighter that night his victory was deserved. Not sure about the stoppage though.

[BostonGuy]

I can live with the scorecards but the decision to stop the fight was disgraceful. The cuts were in no way obstructing Fernandez' vision, they were just a little uncomfortable. Actually I think it was all the body shots that were landing that made him uncomfortable. In any case, the referee should not have caved into Wegner's lobbying to stop the fight. He should have had the ringside physician look at the cuts and make the call...