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  • #61
    Okay...finally got around to watching the whole fight (it's been a long day). I thought Hernandez was up by a wide margin at the end, 59-55. But I'd like to share some observations. Yoan Pablo was inexplicably lethargic after the first round, and especially after the cut. Cunningham, perhaps because he knew he had to make up for the first round KD, pressed the action. Steve looked good, but it was Yoan who was landing the better shots.

    The only round I thought "USS" won clearly was the sixth. Perhaps this is telling, because this was when Hernandez's corner decided the cut was "too bad" for their man to continue. For what it's worth, Yoan seemed to be faltering as the fight wore on, and Steve was gaining in confidence and momentum. As I've already said, it's all academic now. Not the most satisfying win for Yoan Pablo, but a win against a solid champion nonetheless.

    There should be a re-match between these two in a neutral land. Cunningham deserves it, and Hernandez needs to prove himself more convincingly....

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    • #62
      Originally posted by daggum View Post
      he went down at 36 and was up before 26. do the timing. ref's counts are never done exactly in real time. look at any other knockdown in boxing. it always takes longer than ten seconds. you are just trying to create a fake controversy.
      Was he stable when he got up? His legs were shaking and he was doingthe judah dance

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      • #63
        Originally posted by daggum View Post
        5 rounds to 1 for hernandez.......these judges have such an ego. they don't even care about being corrupt. they openly flaunt it because they know there are no consequences.
        I had the first round for Yoan Pablo and the second even. Three, four and five I thought belonged to Hernandez, while Cunningham clearly took the sixth. If anything, I thought the judge that had Steve winning was watching another fight. When you consider that Hernandez obviously got a 10-8 round in the first, it's hard to argue that Cunningham was winning by the end of the sixth. Steve wasn't winning every round so convincingly that he could reasonably be up. Just my opinion....

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        • #64
          Hernandez was losing momentum badly and was getting tired and took the B!TCH WAY OUT! If the Bleeding was bad and they couldn't control it then the Stoppage would have been justified, but that wasn't the case, this was A WAY OUT!

          Cuban or not, I can't respect that decision, Cunningham title was STOLEN FROM HIM!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by yonge.heffer View Post
            Yea, how dare those 2 UK and 1 Polish judge, when both fighters fight in Germany and are promoted by the same promoter. Such an agenda! How dare!
            are you implying promoters don't care which one of their fighters win? yeah i'm sure arum would have been thrilled if clottey beat pac. cunningham's contract with sauerland is up soon and he paid the price. sauerland now has 2 of the belts locked up. they clearly had an agenda against cunningham but you can keep playing the blind man. you could say it was just hernandez's trainer but then when the scorecards were read you knew cunningham never had a chance to win under any circumstancee. no matter what country a judge is from he can always be bought. clearly 5 rounds to 1 is super ******ed but yet you don't think so.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by daggum View Post
              are you implying promoters don't care which one of their fighters win? yeah i'm sure arum would have been thrilled if clottey beat pac. cunningham's contract with sauerland is up soon and he paid the price. sauerland now has 2 of the belts locked up. they clearly had an agenda against cunningham but you can keep playing the blind man. you could say it was just hernandez's trainer but then when the scorecards were read you knew cunningham never had a chance to win under any circumstancee. no matter what country a judge is from he can always be bought. clearly 5 rounds to 1 is super ******ed but yet you don't think so.
              I totally disagree with your assertion that "5 rounds to 1 is super ******ed," but I agree that it's almost certain the promoters had a hand in the stoppage. The powers-that-be saw that Cunningham was fighting confidently and Hernandez wasn't. They also felt that the tide was beginning to turn. (I had Steve winning only the sixth and final round.) So they pulled the plug, knowing that Yoan Pablo had done enough to win through six (or they would make it so, anyway).

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              • #67
                Originally posted by yonge.heffer View Post
                Was he stable when he got up? His legs were shaking and he was doingthe judah dance
                no he was wobbly but still coherent. does a ref have to stop every fight because a guy is a little wobbly? he gave him a chance and he took it. no point in going back in time and saying he should have stopped it just because cunningham started dominating. he could have stopped it but he didn't. the more important question is why did he stop it in the 6th when the cuts weren't an issue. the cut was certainly a lot worse in the 3rd and 4th yet no stoppage then. obviously the fight was getting away from hernandez and the corner demanded it to be stopped because he was more than likely going to lose. sauerland had the judges paid off just in case hernandez needed them and he did so they used them as backup.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by KnockUTheFukOut View Post
                  Hernandez was losing momentum badly and was getting tired and took the B!TCH WAY OUT! If the Bleeding was bad and they couldn't control it then the Stoppage would have been justified, but that wasn't the case, this was A WAY OUT!

                  Cuban or not, I can't respect that decision, Cunningham title was STOLEN FROM HIM!
                  Somewhat, yes. But, to play "devil's advocate", we don't know how bad or deep that cut was, regardless of whether it had stopped bleeding. Nonetheless, it sure looks like Hernandez's corner wanted to call it an early night, knowing they were up on the cards.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by OG Wenger View Post
                    Am i the only person that thinks that count didn't seem long?
                    It wasn't long at all. That was a perfectly normal count and he got up in time.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                      I totally disagree with your assertion that "5 rounds to 1 is super ******ed," but I agree that it's almost certain the promoters had a hand in the stoppage. The powers-that-be saw that Cunningham was fighting confidently and Hernandez wasn't. They also felt that the tide was beginning to turn. (I had Steve winning only the sixth and final round.) So they pulled the plug, knowing that Yoan Pablo had done enough to win through six (or they would make it so, anyway).
                      it's pretty ******ed. cunningham easily won 3 rounds without question. 2 and 4 were close and obviously 1 wasn't. i don't see any possible way you can have hernandez winning 5 rounds. i could be wrong but i doubt it and yes the promoter obviously had a hand in stopping it unfairly.

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