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  • #61
    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
    IMO that's the only way, outside of beating Martinez, that Floyd can be considered greater than Pacquiao. It's not a wipeout right now, but I think it's clearly Pacquiao in this argument.
    I agree.

    It's clearly Pac at this moment.

    But beating Pac is a huge legacy enhancer. I mean, he's a Top 50 ATG.

    I consider both Pacquaio and Mayweather in the Top 50 of all time but not lower than Top 35.

    Pac more between 35-40 and Mayweather more 45-50. Or around those ranges a little bit either way.

    If Mayweather beats Pacquaio, a Top 50 ATG, it will enhance him into the Top 35. IMO. Where Pac isn't at the moment, IMO.

    See what I'm saying?

    So whilst I do feel that Pac is quite clearly the greater fighter although I think it's reasonably close. A win over Pac will take him higher than Pac. Again, IMO.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
      Floyd will have beaten the boxer people considered best fighter of his generation, but Pac would still have the better resume.
      Pac would argubally still have the better resume.

      Many people would consider Mayweather to now have the better resume.

      That's just how it is. Whether you like it or not.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
        "Fighter of the Decade" is a popularity contest.

        Will people please stop using that as reasoning to why Pac is greater.

        Believe it or not, there are people out there who think Mayweather was the fighter of the decade..
        Popularity contest based on what? I mean, considering the fact that we are talking about each guy's contribution to the sport FOR A DECADE, these guys who "voted" for Pacquiao should be able to look closely on his resume and compare it against other fighters. And mind you, I dont think Manny's lead to Floyd is even that close. This means to say Manny, from 2000-10 is a much better than fighter than Mayweather BASED ON THEIR RESUME.

        And I honestly don't think that guys like you would feel the same way if Floyd has won it.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          Pac would argubally still have the better resume.

          Many people would consider Mayweather to now have the better resume.

          That's just how it is. Whether you like it or not.
          You have floyd quite high ATG wise and he hasnt beaten anyone to justify such a high ranking. Who has FLoyd beat that justifies him such a high ranking? Hes beat mostly littler guys.

          Pac has at least beaten just about the greatest mexican boxers ever back to back, and has stepped up numerous weights and beat the best the divsions had to offer better than the people who campaigned at those weights.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            You have floyd quite high ATG wise and he hasnt beaten anyone to justify such a high ranking. Who has FLoyd beat that justifies him such a high ranking? Hes beat mostly littler guys.

            Pac has at least beaten just about the greatest mexican boxers ever back to back, and has stepped up numerous weights and beat the best the divsions had to offer better than the people who campaigned at those weights.
            Floyd Mayweather has gone through 5 weight classes and won 4 Lineal Titles and in every weight class he has won a title in it has atleast been a Top 3 ranked Champion other than 154 it was Top 5.

            That's what justifys his ranking.

            @ mostly littler guys. Ok, whatever.

            Pac has beaten the greatest Mexican boxers ever back to back?

            Pac beat Chavez and Ruben Olivares back to back? ****, I missed that.

            It doesn't even matter. I don't even want to have this conversation with you because you have no clue what you're talking about.

            All that matters is that IF Mayweather beats Manny Pacquaio alot of people will consider him to be the greater fighter. Whether you like it or not. It's only Boxing, don't lose sleep over it. It's a big if.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 09-23-2011, 07:56 PM.

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            • #66
              "The Fighter of the Deacade" award simply shows how Floyd has made the wrong decisions in choosing his opponents. He could have won it if only he only chose fame over money after he fought ODLH. Unfortunately, he "retired" and started fighting crappy fighters just to keep his 0.

              Take a look at their division, before MP came in, Welterweight is the best class in the boxing world. You got a lot of fighters who were considered great fighters. However, Floyd, instead of proving himself as the king of the division, just fought chose to fight to maintain his 0. And who has cleaned the division? Its Manny Pacquiao. Because of this, the resume of Pacquiao has made him a lot better fighter than Floyd bar none.

              And yet, we ain't talking about the real deal, which no matter what you say, being a champion in 8 different divisions are so much harder to accomplish compared to maintain your 0.

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              • #67
                lol @ fighter of the decade being a popularity contest

                Tyson was more popular than RJJ

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                • #68
                  Floyd is skilled on cheapshots and thuggery.

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                  • #69
                    Morales, Barrera, Marquez @ their best weights > Floyd's entire cherry picked resume.

                    Hatton is a bum. Stop bringing him up in these resume comparisons.

                    Beaten by Floyd, exposed by Pac.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by dosepulgada View Post
                      Popularity contest based on what? I mean, considering the fact that we are talking about each guy's contribution to the sport FOR A DECADE, these guys who "voted" for Pacquiao should be able to look closely on his resume and compare it against other fighters. And mind you, I dont think Manny's lead to Floyd is even that close. This means to say Manny, from 2000-10 is a much better than fighter than Mayweather BASED ON THEIR RESUME.

                      And I honestly don't think that guys like you would feel the same way if Floyd has won it.
                      Based on it is merely an opinion of a group of people. That's it.

                      Pac got more votes from that specific group of people so in their opinion he is fighter of the decade.

                      Others might think it's Floyd.

                      Some do, some don't. It's an opinion.

                      People like me? And what is that? Fan's of Mayweather?

                      Did I not just say Pac is greater than Mayweather?

                      My favourite fighter from the 60's is **** Tiger yet I just said that Emile Griffith was the fighter of the 60's.

                      However, some people think it's Tiger. Others think it's Ortiz. Other's think it's Ali. And that's cool.

                      It's just an opinion, after all.

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