Is Toney-Byrd happening or not?

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  • TheEvilSaint
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    #11
    Originally posted by Rockin1
    why would Toney duck ruiz. The man comes to him throws some garbage and holds on. Ruiz is Taylor made for James, as James could counter punch before Ruiz grabs hold.

    Byrd may be ducking the Klits and whoever else. And why wouldnt he, he is a small heavyweight. James is not a big heavyweight and does not pack anywhere close to the power that the giants do.


    Byrd would frustrate and defeat Toney. Styles make the fight and James does not have the style to deal with Byrd.

    Rockin'
    they will clinch and hug frequently, provided the fight materializes. when they do, toney will work the body and slow byrd down. when byrd gets sloppy, and he often does, toney will counter beautifully. toneys head movement when in the middle of the ring is something byrd cant counter.

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    • Rockin'
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      #12
      First, you are assuming that Byrd would bring the fight to James. He wouldnt. James does not fight well going forward, especially since he became a heavyweight. James will have to track Byrd down and he will not be able to do it.

      James does have great defense. Against the big and slow heavyweights james eyes will work as though he is in the matrix. However, Byrd is a whole lot faster than 98% of the division. James success through the heavier division has been mostly due to the fact that the heavyweights just move slower. James is able to slip, roll and counter when these big guys plodding at him. Byrd is faster and will not bring the fight to him. As I said before, James will be tied in knots and wants no part of Byrd.

      Rockin'

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      • TheEvilSaint
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        #13
        Originally posted by Rockin1
        First, you are assuming that Byrd would bring the fight to James. He wouldnt. James does not fight well going forward, especially since he became a heavyweight. James will have to track Byrd down and he will not be able to do it.

        James does have great defense. Against the big and slow heavyweights james eyes will work as though he is in the matrix. However, Byrd is a whole lot faster than 98% of the division. James success through the heavier division has been mostly due to the fact that the heavyweights just move slower. James is able to slip, roll and counter when these big guys plodding at him. Byrd is faster and will not bring the fight to him. As I said before, James will be tied in knots and wants no part of Byrd.

        Rockin'
        neither fighter brings the fight. which is why this fight will be too boring for anyone to see it or even promote it. byrds success was also due to the fact that his opponents were much slower than he was.

        when they tie up, toney will work the body and slow down byrd.

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #14
          Where is Toney ranked in the IBF rankings?

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          • marvdave
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            #15
            Originally posted by DiegoFuego
            What's the deal. Why doesn't Byrd ever want to discuss this? He's scared of Toney. Let's make it happen.

            Byrd isn't afraid of Toney...Don King and PPV are.

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            • Hitman932
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              #16
              Originally posted by DiegoFuego
              Where is Toney ranked in the IBF rankings?
              nowhere, thats why this fight shouldnt happen,

              just like all other title fights, james toney doesent deserve the shot and hes gonna try to **** talk his wat into it. he needs to earn his mandatory shots just like everyone else.

              byrd needs to fight either klitscko before he talks about anybody else.

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              • marvdave
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                #17
                Originally posted by Hitman932
                nowhere, thats why this fight shouldnt happen,

                just like all other title fights, james toney doesent deserve the shot and hes gonna try to **** talk his wat into it. he needs to earn his mandatory shots just like everyone else.

                byrd needs to fight either klitscko before he talks about anybody else.
                since when do people "earn" mandatory shots?

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                • Hitman932
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by marvdave
                  since when do people "earn" mandatory shots?

                  i knew someone was going to say that when i read my post


                  but you get the point, the system is already bad enough we dont need the IBf awarding championship fights to the guy witht he biggest mouth.

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                  • Derranged_
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                    What's the deal. Why doesn't Byrd ever want to discuss this? He's scared of Toney. Let's make it happen.
                    Why do you want to see Byrd fight again? He's so boring the ref in his last fight had to tell him "to pick up the pace!" And when's the last time Byrd knocked someone out, let alone that he only fight's once annually.

                    As for Toney, I would like to see him get a win(and knockout) against Briggs, Brock, or Peter before he gets another title shot.

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                    • Konstantin
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BostonGuy
                      Why do you want to see Byrd fight again? He's so boring the ref in his last fight had to tell him "to pick up the pace!" And when's the last time Byrd knocked someone out, let alone that he only fight's once annually.

                      As for Toney, I would like to see him get a win(and knockout) against Briggs, Brock, or Peter before he gets another title shot.
                      So Toney was was hitting Guinn all night with no effect and you think that he can get a KO on Briggs, Brock, or Peter?

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