Floyd vs Ortiz, what really happened

[BoxingGenius27]

He never said "ok guys fight".


He muttered "Let's Go" while making hand motions for them to come to the middle.


Then he turned to the time keepers and asked "Ya'll ready?", as if he was asking them if they were ready for him to start time. Before he even turns back to the fighters, Floyd punches Ortiz.


Cortez ****ed up big time. Should probably check if the time keepers are ready BEFORE you allow the fighters to leave the corners. Cortez lost complete control of the action in the ring.

Are you serious man? You're really going to try to debate with me something that's on video?

Let's go (hand signaling) = Ok guys fight. Same thing. If you've ever watched a Cortez fight, you would know this.

Mayweather and Ortiz touched gloves for the 3rd time after Cortez said "fight". Regardless if Cortez wasn't looking or not, it's game on. Come on man.

[Marduke]

Are you serious man? You're really going to try to debate with me something that's on video?

Let's go (hand signaling) = Ok guys fight. Same thing. If you've ever watched a Cortez fight, you would know this.

Mayweather and Ortiz touched gloves for the 3rd time after Cortez said "fight". Regardless if Cortez wasn't looking or not, it's game on. Come on man.

I agree that Floyd was in the right to engage, because Cortez said Lets Go, and brought them to the middle.


All I'm saying is, Cortez made it confusing by then turning to the time keepers and asking if they're ready, as if he hadn't started the action. He lost control of the action, and it was obvious that Ortiz thought that time hadn't been started yet.


Cortez should have kept the fighters in their corners, checked that the time keeper was ready, THEN instruct them to begin fighting again.


Floyd is in the right, but Cortex ****ed it up big time.

[Telepath]

The bottom like is that Cortez is a dirty referee.

Joe Cortez had absolutely no idea what had happened when he turned his head to find Victor on the canvas. For all he knew, Floyd could have kicked him in the nuts. He counted him out anyway.

This is blatant bias by a judge that may or may not have been paid off. Please do note that he did exactly the same thing this fight as in the Hatton fight; breaking up perfectly legitimate infighting scenarios.

[MajorKong]

stfu loser. you ain't shit.

[TintaBoricua]

I know the trollers on here are loving this time but I don't care for ****** **** like that. Putting my dislike for Floyd aside I'm going to tell you what really happened.

Three things happened that were wrong.

First one was the headbutt by Ortiz, it was a clear foul and you could see the kid was frustrated by Floyd's defense.

Second was the sucker punch that Floyd hit Ortiz with. Legal technically but it was clearly a cheap shot that ended what could have been an entertaining fight.

Third was Joe Cortez job of the fight. He should have ushered the fighters to a neutral corner, then started the clock and then initiated the fight once again. Instead he allowed the fighters to wander in the middle of the ring and let Floyd sucker punch Ortiz.

The biggest problem I have in all of this, is that if Ortiz came towards Floyd with his hands down and Floyd was ready to fight and Floyd hit him then and KO'd him, then I would say it was Ortiz' fault. What happened though was Floyd came at him with his hands down as if to accept the apology and if you watch the replay closely, waited the second they separated from the hug and hit him with a left hook and then hit him with a right hand when Ortiz was looking at the ref like "wtf ref?"

Sorry but I can't call this a win for Floyd. He would have won anyway because I feel he was outclassing Ortiz but Floyd showed the person he REALLY is. His yelling of his father on tv, him insulting Larry Merchant and then hitting after the break like he did vs Shane, Arturo and now Ortiz shows that Floyd has no respect for anything.

Floyd is the greatest fighter I have seen in my life time and I have seen Leonard, Duran and Chavez Sr but Floyd the person has no worth. I feel sorry for all you that look up to him. Where have all the real men gone?

Those were the problems.

Ortiz started it, Córtez should've probably kept the fighters apart before being absolutely sure about "time in", and Floyd, well...it's hard to classify that as one of his defining wins. He probably would've beaten Ortiz regardless, but it's such a shame ended so EARLY...and ESPECIALLY like THAT.

People are going to be trying to knock Floyd's block off even more. Forget about touching gloves with Floyd anymore...keep your guard up at all times.

[Cash Cow]

I know the trollers on here are loving this time but I don't care for ****** **** like that. Putting my dislike for Floyd aside I'm going to tell you what really happened.

Three things happened that were wrong.

First one was the headbutt by Ortiz, it was a clear foul and you could see the kid was frustrated by Floyd's defense.

Second was the sucker punch that Floyd hit Ortiz with. Legal technically but it was clearly a cheap shot that ended what could have been an entertaining fight.

Third was Joe Cortez job of the fight. He should have ushered the fighters to a neutral corner, then started the clock and then initiated the fight once again. Instead he allowed the fighters to wander in the middle of the ring and let Floyd sucker punch Ortiz.

The biggest problem I have in all of this, is that if Ortiz came towards Floyd with his hands down and Floyd was ready to fight and Floyd hit him then and KO'd him, then I would say it was Ortiz' fault. What happened though was Floyd came at him with his hands down as if to accept the apology and if you watch the replay closely, waited the second they separated from the hug and hit him with a left hook and then hit him with a right hand when Ortiz was looking at the ref like "wtf ref?"

Sorry but I can't call this a win for Floyd. He would have won anyway because I feel he was outclassing Ortiz but Floyd showed the person he REALLY is. His yelling of his father on tv, him insulting Larry Merchant and then hitting after the break like he did vs Shane, Arturo and now Ortiz shows that Floyd has no respect for anything.

Floyd is the greatest fighter I have seen in my life time and I have seen Leonard, Duran and Chavez Sr but Floyd the person has no worth. I feel sorry for all you that look up to him. Where have all the real men gone?

I mean how many times does Ortiz need to hug, kiss and say sorry to Mayweather?

The ref said LETS GO and motioned his hands together...Ortiz was more worried about getting on Mayweathers good side as opposed to being focused on fighting.

Cheap shot or not, the punches were legal and ortiz got caught snoozing.....

[Gonzalez_Boxing]

This is the whole point. He did an acting job and sucker punched him. It was disgusting and basically a reflection of these kids above who posted. The real men in this world are gone man....

You basically answered your own question. The men are gone, the forum is full of kids, or fans of a particular fighter. Their love of a fighter hold precedence over the integrity of the sport and common sense.

[Larry the boss]

I know the trollers on here are loving this time but I don't care for ****** **** like that. Putting my dislike for Floyd aside I'm going to tell you what really happened.

Three things happened that were wrong.

First one was the headbutt by Ortiz, it was a clear foul and you could see the kid was frustrated by Floyd's defense.

Second was the sucker punch that Floyd hit Ortiz with. Legal technically but it was clearly a cheap shot that ended what could have been an entertaining fight.

Third was Joe Cortez job of the fight. He should have ushered the fighters to a neutral corner, then started the clock and then initiated the fight once again. Instead he allowed the fighters to wander in the middle of the ring and let Floyd sucker punch Ortiz.

The biggest problem I have in all of this, is that if Ortiz came towards Floyd with his hands down and Floyd was ready to fight and Floyd hit him then and KO'd him, then I would say it was Ortiz' fault. What happened though was Floyd came at him with his hands down as if to accept the apology and if you watch the replay closely, waited the second they separated from the hug and hit him with a left hook and then hit him with a right hand when Ortiz was looking at the ref like "wtf ref?"

Sorry but I can't call this a win for Floyd. He would have won anyway because I feel he was outclassing Ortiz but Floyd showed the person he REALLY is. His yelling of his father on tv, him insulting Larry Merchant and then hitting after the break like he did vs Shane, Arturo and now Ortiz shows that Floyd has no respect for anything.

Floyd is the greatest fighter I have seen in my life time and I have seen Leonard, Duran and Chavez Sr but Floyd the person has no worth. I feel sorry for all you that look up to him. Where have all the real men gone?

look up to him???is this a childrens forum??

[El.Naranjito707]

Ortiz : 2 Attempted Headbutts
FLoyd : 2 Sucker Punches

Seems fair to me.

How many times have we seen a headbutt sway the whole fight & it was ****ing intentional....so i have 0 sympathy.

Don't forget the elbows...

[MRMREC]

Third was Joe Cortez job of the fight. He should have ushered the fighters to a neutral corner, then started the clock and then initiated the fight once again. Instead he allowed the fighters to wander in the middle of the ring and let Floyd sucker punch Ortiz.

This is all that needed to be said. Cortez ****ed up a good night of main event boxing.