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  • tommyjenkins
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    #81
    Let's just hope someone returns the favor to Gayweather. His first loss will be so EPIC!!

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    • Lorily
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      #82
      Originally posted by Vader21
      Everything that happened was legal and have many have stated it is "protect yourself at all times". However, it was still a classless move that led to some cheap shots by Floyd. I don't think he should've thrown those punches, because imo Floyd would've dominated the fight easily enough and probably would've gotten the Ko in the later rounds. With this PPV being so expensive, I feel the fight shouldn't have ended the way it did.

      Having said that, I fault Victor Ortiz more than anybody else (Cortez/Floyd). I'm tired of Ortiz, the guy just ain't mentally tough and I question if he should keep boxing. Maybe he needs to join his brother's company or something. I can't understand why he let himself get choked out in one of the press conferences and then yesterday after he butts Floyd, he starts apologizing and kissing Floyd? Then after it was clear the fight was back on he is still trying to hug and apologize to Floyd? The guy is in a damn fight, get to it! What's even more sickening to me is the way he's smiling at the end of the fight and high fiving all of Floyd's entourage. To make it worse, he shows no sign of being upset of what went down or the fact that he lost the fight. He has a smile on his face talking about how they gave people a good show. No you didn't Ortiz, cause no one wanted to see the fight end like that. I lost the little respect I had for the guy and I don't think I'll watch him fight again for the time being and I know for damn sure I won't pay for it. At least he didn't mention how he was abandoned when they interviewed for the final time.
      Agree with everything you said... ESPECIALLY the bolded part. Hell, even Larry Merchant was more upset then Ortiz was after the fight.

      The way he acted after the fight tells me Ortiz hood-winked us all again. Just like David Haye did. That crap is what made me lose respect for Victor as a fighter.

      Originally posted by tlarry
      Then let's have a mandatory rematch. Floyd won't do that.
      Naw - no one wants to see a rematch. Not even Victor Ortiz is interested IMO.


      Originally posted by WESS
      Or Floyd was pissed that Ortiz hit him with more headbutts than punches. Floyd is there to fight, not kiss and hug. Nothing wrong punching Ortiz like he did.

      However I dont think Floyd believed he hit him hard enough to KO him like that. Hell I didnt even think he hit him that hard. I think Floyd's intent was to show he wasnt about kissing and hugging but that of fighting. The fact Ortiz was KO'ed I think surprised him as it did me, because it looked to have the same power Mosley took in the same situation.

      But Floyd desperate? Please, he was landing at will and starting to put on a technical shut out.
      It surprised me as well, since he went down and was hit much harder by a Berto punch - and he shook that **** off like it was nothing. The fact that Ortiz was practically rolling around the ring trying to get up from those two shots from Mayweather, looked fishy as hell to me. But hey, I wasn't the one that took those punches so I don't know. But it's Ortiz's entire attitude AFTER the fight that is so bewildering. "Oh well, it happens." WTF? Victor just got beat by a guy he said was "nothing special" in his eyes... and he's standing there smiling like it was his birthday ffs. THAT just doesn't sit well for a lot of people.

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      • snoozuloos
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        #83
        There are a lot of telltale that this fight was bought. I watch the replay of how Ortiz got suckered punched. First of all, Mayweather was the one who wanted to embrace Ortiz. Ortiz wanted to only touch gloves at first being cautious toward Floyd. But when Floyd opened his arms as a gesture to hug, Ortiz went along with it and dropped his guard. When they let go, Floyd let him have it. It was a classic deception.

        When Ortiz got hit with the first punch, why did he kept his hands down and kept his eyes on the referee? Was it to signal to referee "look what Floyd just did"? That might be so. But with the angle of his eyes in regards to Floyd, he should have seen another one about to come in. He did not show any kind of defense at all. Was Floyd too fast? That might be case. But then, when Ortiz went down, why didn't he get up before the end of the count? Was the punch that devastating? Maybe so but it did not look Ortiz was out.

        The whole thing looked like it was stage. Ortiz reaction after the fight made it even more compelling.

        Ortiz guaranteed 2.5 mil., Floyd 25 mil. Seems to me Ortiz could easily be bought with those lopsided figures which brings to my theory if some of Floyd's past opponents were bought. Especially the ones who had chances of beating him. Could this be the reason why Pac and May has not happened yet? Meaning Pac can not be bought due to 50/50 split in purse? Just a theory. Although Ortiz gesture indicating "**** happens" might be the case as well.

        Over all, both side played dirty. Ortiz may have started it with head butt. That could also be the reason why he acted the way he did after the fight. In this case, Ortiz yet to mature up.

        I was actually rooting for Ortiz. But quite disappointed of his dirty tactics. That will take some time to repair his reputation, if ever. As far as Floyd, I have already resigned to his lack luster character. I could never root for Floyd regardless how many times he wins or fake his patriotism or Godliness. He can't buy my support unless he gives me 5 million. Get the hint?

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        • LeG00N
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          #84
          Originally posted by Lorily
          Agree with everything you said... ESPECIALLY the bolded part. Hell, even Larry Merchant was more upset then Ortiz was after the fight.

          The way he acted after the fight tells me Ortiz hood-winked us all again. Just like David Haye did. That crap is what made me lose respect for Victor as a fighter.


          Naw - no one wants to see a rematch. Not even Victor Ortiz is interested IMO.




          It surprised me as well, since he went down and was hit much harder by a Berto punch - and he shook that **** off like it was nothing. The fact that Ortiz was practically rolling around the ring trying to get up from those two shots from Mayweather, looked fishy as hell to me. But hey, I wasn't the one that took those punches so I don't know. But it's Ortiz's entire attitude AFTER the fight that is so bewildering. "Oh well, it happens." WTF? Victor just got beat by a guy he said was "nothing special" in his eyes... and he's standing there smiling like it was his birthday ffs. THAT just doesn't sit well for a lot of people.

          do you really have your on quote on your sig?

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          • Warbeast
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            #85
            Originally posted by Tomasio
            Ortiz's DIRTY ASS got what he DESERVED!! & Mayweather is RIGHT!! The fight was going fine & Mayweather was winning the fight(Clean!) until Ortiz hit him with that OBVIOUS HEAD BUTT!! & then he tried to apologize like everything was OK & the ref said "GO"(NOT BREAK, like Ortiz NOW claims) & it was his ****** ASS'S fault he didn't put his hands up, cause like Mayweather said & ALL REF'S SAY BEFORE THE FIGHT STARTS "PROTECT YOUR SELF AT ALL TIMES!" Ortiz had his hands down & it was fare game, so Mayweather RIGHTFULLY clocked him & Ortiz was fine after the 1st punch & looked at the ref to see if the ref would help him or something & his ****** ASS STILL KEPT his hands down so Floyd just DROPPED IT on his jaw & KO'd his DIRTY ASS!!!
            yep, but boxing is a sport, and that was a poor sportsmanship behavior on floyd's part of taking a cheap shot to an opponent who wasn't even looking.

            and if you defend that action, then you are classless.

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            • MartialBoxing
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              #86
              Originally posted by Medved
              Why wasnt Floyd in the neutral corner until the official time was called in?

              Cortez let Floyd wander and was 3ft away from Ortiz with his back to them, Official time wasnt even running at time of KO.

              yet Floyd fans are so happy that Floyd won, yea its real impressive that he can KO someone looking away from them and with their hands down and have 2 punches at it.

              You guys must be as classless as Floyd to do that, this is why people dont support gutter trash, no matter how much money he has, him and his family and kids will always be low life hood trash who act like animals inside and outside the ring.
              Originally posted by iseah100
              That KO was bull**** if Floyd really thinks he got a legit KO he's more ****** than I thought. Floyd was scared he felt Victors power and knew he was gonna lose. He should give Ortiz a rematch no PPV. Also how did Cortez dumbass call a knockdown he didn't see. Kenny Bayless should have been reffing.
              Originally posted by Vader21
              Everything that happened was legal and have many have stated it is "protect yourself at all times". However, it was still a classless move that led to some cheap shots by Floyd. I don't think he should've thrown those punches, because imo Floyd would've dominated the fight easily enough and probably would've gotten the Ko in the later rounds. With this PPV being so expensive, I feel the fight shouldn't have ended the way it did.

              Having said that, I fault Victor Ortiz more than anybody else (Cortez/Floyd). I'm tired of Ortiz, the guy just ain't mentally tough and I question if he should keep boxing. Maybe he needs to join his brother's company or something. I can't understand why he let himself get choked out in one of the press conferences and then yesterday after he butts Floyd, he starts apologizing and kissing Floyd? Then after it was clear the fight was back on he is still trying to hug and apologize to Floyd? The guy is in a damn fight, get to it! What's even more sickening to me is the way he's smiling at the end of the fight and high fiving all of Floyd's entourage. To make it worse, he shows no sign of being upset of what went down or the fact that he lost the fight. He has a smile on his face talking about how they gave people a good show. No you didn't Ortiz, cause no one wanted to see the fight end like that. I lost the little respect I had for the guy and I don't think I'll watch him fight again for the time being and I know for damn sure I won't pay for it. At least he didn't mention how he was abandoned when they interviewed for the final time.
              agree with just about everything, except i dont think floyd would have "easily dominated the fight" if it continued w/o the headbutt/classless cheap shots
              Originally posted by Lorily
              Agree with everything you said... ESPECIALLY the bolded part. Hell, even Larry Merchant was more upset then Ortiz was after the fight.

              The way he acted after the fight tells me Ortiz hood-winked us all again. Just like David Haye did. That crap is what made me lose respect for Victor as a fighter.


              Naw - no one wants to see a rematch. Not even Victor Ortiz is interested IMO.




              It surprised me as well, since he went down and was hit much harder by a Berto punch - and he shook that **** off like it was nothing. The fact that Ortiz was practically rolling around the ring trying to get up from those two shots from Mayweather, looked fishy as hell to me. But hey, I wasn't the one that took those punches so I don't know. But it's Ortiz's entire attitude AFTER the fight that is so bewildering. "Oh well, it happens." WTF? Victor just got beat by a guy he said was "nothing special" in his eyes... and he's standing there smiling like it was his birthday ffs. THAT just doesn't sit well for a lot of people.
              all these quotes are just about spot on

              Ortiz is such a punk for that headbutt, for not protecting himself, even after the 1st hook, for not getting up after the shots, and for the way he carried himself in the ring after the fight was over

              and Floyd is such a punk for ending the fight the way he did. like someone else said, at max, he should of just hit him with that hook (mayb even alil harder) and backed off for Victor to at least put his hands up and look at him

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              • PennyAnd1
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                #87
                Wazzup ya'll, it's great to be back.

                First of all cong**** to Morales, being the first Mexican to win 4 World titles in 4 divisions.

                Second. Ortiz ****ed up. Yea that's right son. Ortiz I thought had a good tactic trying to box Mayweather. And **** yes I don't believe like all those out there think that Floyd dominated cause Mayweather did not dominate the fight. Winning yes, but not dominate. I actually gave Ortiz the 2nd round and could've won round 4 if Ortiz wasn't a butthead & did a headbutt.

                And it seemed to me, Ortiz was just warming up. There was no sign of Ortiz looking upset or disappointed and he landed more punches on Floyd than anyone has since Castillo fight. Sure I still believed Floyd would've won, but not that easy and I really did believe Ortiz could've surprised alot at the end of the day, but Ortiz ****ed up.

                Floyd cong****, you still haven't lost a step. And yeah you did nothing wrong, you stucked to the rules, BUT it's still a pretty cheap shot, especially if you call yourself the lb-4-lb king.

                Pacman Vs Pretty Boy. Let's get it on!

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                • -Swizzy-
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                  #88
                  the ref signaled the fighters to continue fighting(even though everyone is saying he didn't) and they hugged, Mayweather DID wait a moment after the hug and then punched Ortiz. Yes it did look like Mayweather was still a little irritated from the headbutt, but it's not like Mayweather punched him WHILE they were hugging it out. They were already done, Mayweather waited a good moment and then threw the punches. If anything, the confusion was with Ortiz who might have thought the ref didn't restart the fight, which he did.

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                  • junn2
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                    #89
                    use your power

                    ***There is one thing that we can all agree, as a boxing fan, we are all prostrated, all we want is MAY vs PAC. let us use OUR POWER to make it happen, it is OUR MONEY that make fights. from now on, on ALL sports web, we only write on comment- “MAYWEATHER vs PACQUIAO” *if you don’t, then you are one reason why it won’t happen!

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                    • WESS
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Lorily
                      It surprised me as well, since he went down and was hit much harder by a Berto punch - and he shook that **** off like it was nothing. The fact that Ortiz was practically rolling around the ring trying to get up from those two shots from Mayweather, looked fishy as hell to me. But hey, I wasn't the one that took those punches so I don't know. But it's Ortiz's entire attitude AFTER the fight that is so bewildering. "Oh well, it happens." WTF? Victor just got beat by a guy he said was "nothing special" in his eyes... and he's standing there smiling like it was his birthday ffs. THAT just doesn't sit well for a lot of people.
                      I think it's because he knew he was going to lose and what better way to lose than be THE victim rather than the one landing more head butts than punches.

                      Vic was content with the way he lost rather than being like all the others that get shut down and embarrassed. He got a pass as people think FLOYD is the one who was wrong. People are letting hate for Floyd get the best of their judgment. Floyd was there to fight, Vic wanted to kiss like they where best friends or something. As Steward said, Floyd was being more aggressive than other fights. He was looking for the KO and after being head butted he found out that Vic was more about being friends with him rather than fighting. **** that, Vic was the bytch and should go back to boxing 101, Protect yourself at all times... side note, Don't kiss and grab ass during a fight either! Just fight. Ortiz ruined the night, NOT Floyd. If he wouldn't have head butted NONE of that would have happened. IF HE wouldn't have tried to kiss and grab ass HE wouldn't have been KO'ed. Ortiz was the problem, Floyd was there to fight. Obviously.

                      As for Larry, his drunk ass should be fired. I cant stand him. I wished Kellerman was there. He would have got the interview everyone wanted done. Not larrys biased drunk ass... He just couldnt wait to get at Floyd. Larry ruined my night with his antics.

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