Arum Reiterates: "Testing Non ****ing Issue"

[ALG United]

How quickly you forget the video weve had shoved down our throats forever now...

Remember "even during the sixth round... Cause Want to know if thats the real reason"

But now youre saying only recently huh? This just isnt a debate youre prepared for man. You need to do a little research before getting into a conversation with people that have been following this very closely.

This interview were done before the Margarito fight...

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”

http://beatsboxingmayhem.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/manny-pacquiao-politics-as-usual/

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd came out on top??? Are you ******ed son? This was THE only goddamn request!!!!

FLOYD CONCEDED TO

MANNY'S GLOVE SIZE.

MANNY'S RING SIZE

MANNY'S 10 MILLION PER POUND CLAUSE

MANNY'S DESIRE FOR A 50/50 SPLIT.

[Mind]He didn't sign a contract, so he didn't agree to anything[/Bat]

[Carpe Diem]

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Anti-Dopi...List-of-NADOs/

If the lab isn't list on there, then it's not an WADA's authorized lab. What's with all these discussions about? Manny will train in the Philippines, and USADA has no authorization to go there.

[Pacquiao'd]

I would have mad respect for Floyd if he said this.. but he did not... AND to straighten on some facts,
1) 8 oz gloves is allowed in a 147lbs fight, Floyd can wear 10 oz gloves if he wanted to but Manny is not restricted to wear the same gloves as Floyd's,
2) they are using the STANDARD 20'x20' ring, what they did not agree upon is the use of the bigger 24'x24' ring that are meant for the big big heavyweights, and if you didn't notice both this fighters stands not more 5'8",
3) the 10 million per pound penalty will only take effect if ever Floyd go OVER the contracted 147lbs weight limit on the weigh in, so i don't get the issue here UNLESS Floyd is planning of coming in as a big MW in the weigh in,
4) 50/50 for a potential 100-200million superfight is i think fair enough on both sides, Floyd will not earn as much as this from any other fighter right now, even if he fights Oscar again he will not earn this much from a singular fight....

So your arguement of Floyd conceding so much already, I don't buy it, these are points in a negotiation that they both mutually agreed upon, points that didn't benefit just one fighter...

gloves have to be AGREED upon
pacroid has also come in over weight for a fight so that demand makes no sense
floyd doesnt have to agree to 5050 being that hes proven to outsell pacroid consistently

[Vasyl’s dad]

http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Anti-Dopi...List-of-NADOs/

If the lab isn't list on there, then it's not an WADA's authorized lab.

Philippines
Philippines Sports Commission

[ALG United]

gloves have to be AGREED upon
pacroid has also come in over weight for a fight so that demand makes no sense
floyd doesnt have to agree to 5050 being that hes proven to outsell pacroid consistently

And they both AGREED upon an 8oz gloves, what i'm saying is Floyd can wear his 10oz gloves if he wanted to, if he wants to protect his hands, but he opted not to. If this fight is set in the MW division then I would understand that Manny has no right to request for an 8oz gloves because it has to be 10oz or higher.
From what fight did Manny go over weight? Is it the one that he lost because he became too big already for that division to compete, don't make me laugh... Unlike Floyd who asked a lightweight fighter to go up 2 divisions and then cheat him some with 2 extra poundage.
Floyd may outsell Manny by 100-150k in PPV but it doesn't change the fact that Floyd will not earn a potential 60 million dollars from fighting any other fighter in this decade...

[ALG United]

Good points. I also believe that Arum is concerned about what will happen if Pacquaio actually tests positive for PEDs. I think he knows that, if the NSAC is controlling the output of information, he can use his influence to keep a positive test from being released to the public just as he kept Showtime from releasing the PPV numbers in the Pac/Mosley fight. If the USADA is doing the testing, he has no control over the outcome or what is released.

You *****s and your conspiracy theories, NSAC is just there as a governing agency, with all the characters, professionals, doctors and agencies involve, you need one governing body to just organize things, they will not be involve in the OSDT procedure... And for Arum to control the outcome, that is totally impossible to make, with all this outside unbiased agencies already involve in this fight, it is quite impossible to hold any leakage of any wrongdoing.. With this fight of this magnitude, i bet you even the blood extraction itself will be televised live on primetime news...

[dldwizard]

hahaha.. see a ***** in yesir, twist and turn facts to assuage his hatred of pac is just.. :rotflmao: "come in over weight".. holy sh|t.. this one's priceless..

[Mr. Philadel]

Says Manny has agreed to unlimited random drug testing AND they have no problem with USADA conducting the testing when Manny is training in the U.S. They only ask that NSAC acts as the umbrella authority (which they already are):

Will we finally get Pacquiao-Mayweather?

As we all get set to watch Floyd Mayweather Jr. face Victor Ortiz at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Saturday (HBO PPV, 9 p.m. ET, $59.95), many view it as a warm-up fight for the one we all really want -- and have waited for the past couple of years -- to see.

That would be Mayweather against fellow pound-for-pound star Manny Pacquiao.

Pacquiao, of course, has his own fight to take care of. On Nov. 12, he will have a third showdown, also at the MGM Grand, against Juan Manuel Marquez, who has already given Pacquiao two very tough fights that could have gone either way but were ruled a draw and a Pacquiao split-decision win.

Pacquiao is a significant favorite to take this meeting as well, and if he and Mayweather come up winners in their upcoming bouts, the pressure will once again be on to finally make the damn fight.

It has been a soap opera of negotiations (two rounds so far, not to mention endless rhetoric) that has yet to yield what likely would be the biggest money fight in boxing history.

The hangup was all about drug testing. To make a long story short, Mayweather wanted random blood and urine testing. Pacquiao was cool with unlimited urine testing but was apprehensive about random blood testing -- which no commission on earth requires -- all the way up to fight day.

Throughout the promotion of the Ortiz fight, Mayweather has been asked about Pacquiao and has responded with the same mantra he cites whenever the subject comes up: "Take the test."

During the promotion for the Marquez fight, Pacquiao has been asked about Mayweather and has said multiple times that blood testing is no longer an issue.

So will we see the fight if they both win?

Top Rank's Bob Arum, who promotes Pacquiao (and promoted Mayweather for most of his career before an ugly falling out), told me the other day that he sees no reason why it can't happen next.

"Manny has taken the position that he would agree to unlimited testing," Arum said. "It is a non-f------ issue."


But the question of which agency would handle the testing might be. Mayweather currently uses the United States Anti-Doping Agency to handle testing for his fights. He has been randomly tested -- and required his opponents, such as Ortiz and Shane Mosley, to also be randomly tested -- for his recent bouts.

Arum said he and Pacquiao have no issue with USADA testing but maintain that any testing "should be done under the overall umbrella of the state commission" where the proposed fight would take place.

There has been some talk from the Mayweather camp about wanting Pacquiao to train exclusively in the United States so he could be under USADA's jurisdiction. However, Pacquiao lives in the Philippines (where he serves in that country's congress) and usually spends the first half of his training camp there before relocating for the second part of his camp, to trainer Freddie Roach's Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, Calif.

Arum said the World Anti-Doping Agency, essentially the umbrella agency over USADA, would have to handle Pacquiao's testing in the Philippines.

"The testing would have to be done by WADA, which means when Manny trains in the Philippines, whoever they use in Asia to do the testing would do it," Arum said. "When Manny is training in the United States, they would use USADA. WADA gets the agency to supervise the testing in the Philippines. But the point is, it all has to be done under the overall authority of the boxing commission wherever you have the fight."

Even though Pacquiao is now apparently willing to do the unlimited random testing, Arum still wasn't convinced the fight would happen.

"I'm not optimistic," Arum said. "I think Mayweather will look for a way not to do the fight. I smell the initial drum beat of 'You're not allowed to train in the Philippines' because of [who oversees] the testing. Once Mayweather says that, he can go f--- himself. Then it becomes a major political issue when he says Manny can't train in his home country. Besides, nobody would subject themselves to that type of restriction."

Here we go again?

http://espn.go.com/sports/boxing/blo...iao-mayweather

So let the new excuses begin. We going with taxes again? Not thinking about Boxing? Tuneups? More vacation time?

Discuss...

translation: buy the next Pac PPV even though his opponent has lil' to no chance of winning....same game he's been playing since Pac-Clottey.....with that said, I HOPE this snake aint running game again!!...I hope he's keeping it 100

[louvega]

Now it's not even Floyd ducking the fight, but his fans doing it for him. Holy ****, what a joke.