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Good points. I also believe that Arum is concerned about what will happen if Pacquaio actually tests positive for PEDs. I think he knows that, if the NSAC is controlling the output of information, he can use his influence to keep a positive test from being released to the public just as he kept Showtime from releasing the PPV numbers in the Pac/Mosley fight. If the USADA is doing the testing, he has no control over the outcome or what is released.
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I don't get this thread. Do you guys think floyd fans does not want this fight? That is insane.
From what i know, Floyd has not come up with any "excuses". He said he will fight pac if he takes the full unlimited testing, and as far as im concerned that's whats gonna happen unless he speaks on the subject.Comment
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holy fsck.. you're not only a fscking ***** hippo.. you're blind as a bat as well.. d@mn.. i don't believe it.. if you just open your eyes just a tiny bit, you'd see the hipocrisy of floyd's asking for this OST in the fight card of his upcoming bout.. or you haven't been reading my posts thoroughly.. or you just attack just for the sake of attacking..?
and yeah.. what the hell are you talking about not noticing the hypocrisy? we have been ragging each other ever since a whiff of this match-up happening comes up.. and you're telling me that it is only now that we're noticing? what the hell are we doing here then?
if you ask any pac fan if they agree to OST as an update to the boxing commission 'outdated' testing protocols in a legal way, encompassing ALL boxers not a select few then hell, we are all for it.. but OST as floyd's weapon to malign pac without evidence, then fsck OST+floyd...Last edited by dldwizard; 09-13-2011, 10:49 PM.Comment
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You must be a plain old ****** son???
Here we are in year three and now we hear testing is a non issue.
**** all that ego talk, mosley and ortiz are fighting right now because they heeded the request.
1.) 10 MILLION IS ABSURD FOR MANNY TO ASK FOR PER POUND. HE WASNT EVEN MAKING 10 MILLION PER FIGHT AT THE TIME!!!
2.) HE WANTED SMALLER GLOVES HE GOT THEM.
3.) HE WANTED A SMALLER RING HE GOT IT!!!
4.) HE WANTED A 50/50 SPLIT WHEN HE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING TO DESERVE THAT, BUT MAYWEATHER CONCEDED (BY THE WAY WHERE ARE THE OFFICIAL NUMBERS FOR PAC VS SHANE?)
FLOYD STATED OKAY SIMPLY TAKE A BLOOD AND URINE TEST, AND I WILL AS WELL....
THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EGO. THE ACCUSATIONS CAME AFTER PAC REJECTED THIS OFFER.
AFTER PAC REJECTED THATS WHEN EVERYONE STARTED QUESTIONING WHY, AND STARTED HEARING ALL KINDS OF STUFF FROM PACS CAMP. BUT WHEN MAYWEATHER HAD THIS ON THE TABLE INITIALLY HE NEVER STATED PAC I THINK YOU ARE A CHEATER SO TAKE THIS TEST. AND IF HE HAD SO THE **** WHAT??? PAC WAS BASICALLY SAYING FLOYD YOU ARE A CHEATER AND YOU WILL COME IN HEAVY AND VIOLATE THE CONTRACTED WEIGHT, DID FLOYD BLOW A GASKET AND GET OFFENDED??
HELL NAW HE DIDNT!!!
SO SAVE THAT **** WHAT FOOL HAS AN EGO PROBLEM ABOUT A TEST FOR X3 YEARS?? YOU SEE HOW ****** THAT SOUNDS??
HAD PAC TAKEN THE TEST WITHOUT A HICCUP MOSLEY AND ORTIZ WOULD NOT BE TAKING IT NOW. IT SIMPLY VALIDATED TO FLOYD JR WHAT HIS FATHER WAS SAYING ABOUT THERE BEING A LOT OF DIRTY FIGHTERS.
SO HERE WE ARE IN X3 YEARS TEH ONLY HOLD UP HAS BEEN TESTING AND NOW MANNY AND ARUM ARE SAYING YES WITH NO CONTRACT I MIGHT ADD.
BUT STILL IF THEY AGREE NOW, THEN DOESNT THAT MAKE IT THEIR GODDAMN FAULT??
THIS IS ALL THE FLOYD FANS HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG, YOU *******S AHVE BEEN SHOOTING THE **** SAYING ******ED CRAP LIKE:
"Well if Floyd will make easy work of manny, how about he just fight him without the test...."
Knowing fully goddamn well if Floyd stated okay you dont have to test lets fight but I am not wearing 8 oz gloves, I dont agree to 10 million per pound, We are using a standard ring, and no longer 50/50 you would be saying look!!!! hes trying to throw the fight off!!!!"
Not realizing that Floyd has already conceded so much to a man that cant outsell him pay-per-view wise, wont be favored against Floyd in vegas, and a man that many think is a literal cheater.
You cant be that naive you are just ******ED!!Comment
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That's misleading because WADA doesnt work like that. They are not a testing agency.
WADA is not a testing agency. Testing programs are conducted by International Federations (IFs) and National Anti-Doping Organizations (NADOs), while the IOC and IPC are responsible for testing during the Olympic and Paralympic Games respectively...USADA is very highly respected. They will provide testing for a number of very high-profile international sports events in America. They are compliant to the World Anti-Doping Code, which is the governing document which harmonizes anti-doping testing across the world, so USADA is the body which would be the best one to use, absolutely," stated Terence O’Rorke, Senior Manager Media Relations and Communications of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), who talked about the relationship between WADA and other National Anti-Doping Organizations. According to O’Rorke, the United Stated Anti-Doping Agency would be the best organization to handle WADA testing procedures for events held in the United States. Check out what else he had to say!
I've only seen two maybe 3 ppl pick up on the wordplay coming from Arum. I get why all of the Floyd fans, Pacquiao fans, and just general fight fans get excited about this fight..... BUT
"They only ask that NSAC acts as the umbrella authority (which they already are)" <---- (TS quote) WTF does that mean when they don't do blood testing???
"Manny has taken the position that he would agree to unlimited testing," Arum said. "It is a non-f------ issue." <---- Yeah you/he did that a long time ago. Unlimited urine testing means "unlimited testing" so technically hes not lying even though I heard nothing about both unlimited urine and blood testing with no cut off date.
"The testing would have to be done by WADA, which means when Manny trains in the Philippines, whoever they use in Asia to do the testing would do it," Arum said. "When Manny is training in the United States, they would use USADA. WADA gets the agency to supervise the testing in the Philippines. But the point is, it all has to be done under the overall authority of the boxing commission wherever you have the fight." <---- Terence O’Rorke, Senior Manager Media Relations and Communications of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) According to O’Rorke, the United Stated Anti-Doping Agency would be the best organization to handle WADA testing procedures for events held in the United States. <---- So USDA will do the testing no matter where Pacquiao trains according to O'Rorke which is the same problem that fight fans haven't seen the fight yet.
Don't mean to offend either side I just found that these few lines stood out to me. That Arum is one slick mofo with the words. IMO its not happening any time soon.Comment
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Imagine this,
Arum/pac agree to testing state they want the fight.
Floyd whoops ortiz
They start with the excuses again and we get no fight.
Floyd somehow loses to ortiz
They say the fight doesnt make sense anymore but they agreed wanting the fight, that testing was never an issue and thats why floyd didnt want pac.
Either outcome, Arum does everything he can to avoid a mayweather fight.
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We may be good at playing dumb, but you are the dumbest motherf...ker on this message board. What the hell makes you think Mayweather has any control over the actions of the fighters on his undercards? The boxers on the undercard are not undergoing the tests because the tests cost thousands of dollars, they are paid for by the promoters and THEIR promoters won't pay for the damn tests. Unless he promotes them, Mayweather can't dictate what other fighters do when they are fighting someone else. He can only control his own bouts by saying "either take the tests or you won't fight me." Do you actually think that Manny Pacquaio dictates the weight, the glove size, the purse fo the fighters on his undercards? As ****** as you are, you probably do!
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Shane took the test, no problem, no issues.
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