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  • Dave Rado
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    #151
    Originally posted by joseph5620
    That's misleading because WADA doesnt work like that. They are not a testing agency.




    WADA is not a testing agency. Testing programs are conducted by International Federations (IFs) and National Anti-Doping Organizations (NADOs), while the IOC and IPC are responsible for testing during the Olympic and Paralympic Games respectively...USADA is very highly respected. They will provide testing for a number of very high-profile international sports events in America. They are compliant to the World Anti-Doping Code, which is the governing document which harmonizes anti-doping testing across the world, so USADA is the body which would be the best one to use, absolutely," stated Terence O’Rorke, Senior Manager Media Relations and Communications of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), who talked about the relationship between WADA and other National Anti-Doping Organizations. According to O’Rorke, the United Stated Anti-Doping Agency would be the best organization to handle WADA testing procedures for events held in the United States. Check out what else he had to say!
    Are you/he seriously claiming that the USADA can handle testing outside the USA, for the period during which a fighter is training outside the US? If not, you are being disingenious to put it mildly. I suspect O’Rorke is not being disingenious so much as ill-informed - I very much doubt he was aware that one of the fighters would be need to do part of his training outside the USA. But you don't have his excuse of being ill-informed, so what's your excuse?

    And to pretend that any WADA-approved testing agency in any country wouldn't be trustworthy is just ******. When the Olympics were held in the USSR, the testing agency was legit and caught a lot of athletes, including Russian ones.
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-13-2011, 10:52 PM.

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    • QADASHBANYAH
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      #152
      Originally posted by dldwizard
      how many fscking kind of drug testing do YOU want pac to take..? every protocol that's been invented..? i thought according to you OST is the and all and be all of drug testing..?

      and didn't pac says that he'd do any protocols may wanted? arum reiterated.. what more do you fscking want?

      and lastly, aren't you glad that your 'god' comes on top of the heap of this pissing contest that spans more than 3 years? he should be gloating that pac finally relented everything.. why can't you fscking *****s takes YES for an answer..?


      Floyd came out on top??? Are you ******ed son? This was THE only goddamn request!!!!


      FLOYD CONCEDED TO

      MANNY'S GLOVE SIZE.

      MANNY'S RING SIZE

      MANNY'S 10 MILLION PER POUND CLAUSE

      MANNY'S DESIRE FOR A 50/50 SPLIT.


      HERE WE ARE X3 YEARS LATER AND SOMEHOW YOU ARE SAYING FLOYD CAME OUT ON TOP OF A PISSING CONTEST WHEN THIS WAS HIS ONLY REQUEST???

      ARE YOU ****IN SERIOUS??? LOL


      LOL MAN YOU *******S ARE TOO FUNNY!!!

      WHEN HAS X1 DEMAND (floyd) BEEN GREATER THAN X4 DEMANDS (manny)??

      You stated:

      he should be gloating that pac finally relented everything..
      EVERYTHING?? HE HAS BEEN THE GODDAMN HOLD UP ALL ALONG ******!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE BASICALLY ADMITTING RIGHT NOW!!!!

      PAC CONCEEDING ACCORDING TO YOUR WORDS IS NOW THE KEY TO THIS FIGHT MOVING ALONG, SO WHY ARE YOU PISSED OFF WITH FLOYD AGAIN??

      AND THEN YOUR ******ED ASS ASKED THIS QUESTION...

      ****** STATED:
      why can't you fscking *****s takes YES for an answer..?

      BECAUSE AS YOU HAVE ADMITTED FINALLY THAT FOR X3 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT MANNY HAS AGREED, SO DONT BE TOO MAD BECAUSE WE ARE STILL SAYING MANNY IS CRYING WOLF.

      HE'S BEEN SAYING HE AGREED FOR THE PAST X3 YEARS AND THIS WAS THE ONLY ROADBLOCK!!


      SO YOU WILL SAY WELL MAYWEATHER WENT ON VACATION, AND THE REBUTTAL WILL BE THIS.

      IF MANNY CANT DECIDE TO TAKE A GODDAMN TEST, THEN WHY DOES IT MATTER IF HE'S ON VACATION OR NOT???


      EVEN THIS ARTICLE LETS YOU KNOW THE HOLD UP HAS BEEN DRUG TESTING AND NOT ON FLOYDS PART BUT MANNYS.... REMEMBER THIS THREAD MONDAY WHEN MAYWEATHER SMASHES ORTIZ OKAY?????

      AND TEAM PAC RELEASES ANOTHER STATEMENT...

      THEN YOU WILL BE WELCOMED TO THE FLOYD SIDE, LETS SEE IF MY PREDICTIONS COME TO PASS.

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      • Larry the boss
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        #153
        Originally posted by Rolaz
        Don't get red, I said check the CREDIBILITY of both Boxers! that you may know the TRUTH!

        Check their Resume! Don't be ignorant of REAL FACTS!
        dont get what???and i know their resumes you lil bitch..both have solid resume's

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        • dldwizard
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          #154
          Shane took the test, no problem, no issues.

          Ortiz is taking the test, no problem, no issues.

          Pacquiao (Who never said: "No" to the tests) has a problem with testing until just recently?

          I think you're as thick as a mule who's trying to spin it in your favor.

          spin to my favor.. fsck it.. i don't need to do anything of the sort.. your hypocrisy alone is pwning your own @ss.. what more do i need to do.. point out a few facts here and there, including those that floyd said himself, and everyone who is not a blind as a bat ***** like you would see through your BS..




          We may be good at playing dumb, but you are the dumbest motherf...ker on this message board. What the hell makes you think Mayweather has any control over the actions of the fighters on his undercards? The boxers on the undercard are not undergoing the tests because the tests cost thousands of dollars, they are paid for by the promoters and THEIR promoters won't pay for the damn tests. Unless he promotes them, Mayweather can't dictate what other fighters do when they are fighting someone else. He can only control his own bouts by saying "either take the tests or you won't fight me." Do you actually think that Manny Pacquaio dictates the weight, the glove size, the purse fo the fighters on his undercards? As ****** as you are, you probably do!

          and why the hell not.. ain't floyd hell bent on cleaning up the sport? why can't he do it to his own fight card.. sic anybody who would refuse as cheater.. drop them from his fight card.. refuse to budge on the issue.. scream at the top of his fscking lungs that anybody who's fighting that don't do OST is a fscking wuss and a cheater.. isn't that what he's doing to pac?

          if he's done it this way then he won't be tagged as a hypocritic @ss..



          EVERYTHING?? HE HAS BEEN THE GODDAMN HOLD UP ALL ALONG ******!!! THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE BASICALLY ADMITTING RIGHT NOW!!!!

          PAC CONCEEDING ACCORDING TO YOUR WORDS IS NOW THE KEY TO THIS FIGHT MOVING ALONG, SO WHY ARE YOU PISSED OFF WITH FLOYD AGAIN??

          AND THEN YOUR ******ED ASS ASKED THIS QUESTION...
          ain't OST the godd@mn hold-up for this fight? well pac relented everything when it comes to this fscking thing.. what more could you ask for.. can't take YES for an answer?


          BECAUSE AS YOU HAVE ADMITTED FINALLY THAT FOR X3 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT MANNY HAS AGREED, SO DONT BE TOO MAD BECAUSE WE ARE STILL SAYING MANNY IS CRYING WOLF.

          HE'S BEEN SAYING HE AGREED FOR THE PAST X3 YEARS AND THIS WAS THE ONLY ROADBLOCK!!

          are you trying to re-write history? just to fit your rationale? it's only lately that pac's saying he agreed to everything floyd asks when it comes to drug testing.. what the fsck are you saying?
          Last edited by dldwizard; 09-13-2011, 11:08 PM.

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            #155
            How quickly you forget the video weve had shoved down our throats forever now...

            Remember "even during the sixth round... Cause Want to know if thats the real reason"

            But now youre saying only recently huh? This just isnt a debate youre prepared for man. You need to do a little research before getting into a conversation with people that have been following this very closely.

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              #156
              Originally posted by joseph5620
              That's misleading because WADA doesnt work like that. They are not a testing agency.




              WADA is not a testing agency. Testing programs are conducted by International Federations (IFs) and National Anti-Doping Organizations (NADOs), while the IOC and IPC are responsible for testing during the Olympic and Paralympic Games respectively...USADA is very highly respected. They will provide testing for a number of very high-profile international sports events in America. They are compliant to the World Anti-Doping Code, which is the governing document which harmonizes anti-doping testing across the world, so USADA is the body which would be the best one to use, absolutely," stated Terence O’Rorke, Senior Manager Media Relations and Communications of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA), who talked about the relationship between WADA and other National Anti-Doping Organizations. According to O’Rorke, the United Stated Anti-Doping Agency would be the best organization to handle WADA testing procedures for events held in the United States. Check out what else he had to say!
              This is what Arum said, "The testing would have to be done by WADA, which means when Manny trains in the Philippines, whoever they use in Asia to do the testing would do it," Arum said. "When Manny is training in the United States, they would use USADA. WADA gets the agency to supervise the testing in the Philippines. But the point is, it all has to be done under the overall authority of the boxing commission wherever you have the fight."

              Meaning WADA doesn't do the test they'll just supervise, and Arum didn't say it's gonna be POC(Philippine Olympic Commission) either, meaning it could be the agency from China, the same agency who did the drug tests for the Beijing Olympics, it's nearer and within Asia, and it's gonna be unbiased..... BUT i very much doubt POC will risk concealing evidence of drug use just for one man, if ever they are commissioned to do the test under close observation from WADA, if found guilty will loose credibility, license and being a goverment funded facility will even taint a bad light on the entire nation
              Last edited by ALG United; 09-13-2011, 11:56 PM.

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              • dldwizard
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                #157
                Originally posted by Kenny MF Powers
                How quickly you forget the video weve had shoved down our throats forever now...

                Remember "even during the sixth round... Cause Want to know if thats the real reason"

                But now youre saying only recently huh? This just isnt a debate youre prepared for man. You need to do a little research before getting into a conversation with people that have been following this very closely.


                well your ***** friend trying to make it sound in his post like pac have been saying this for 3 years.. well is he saying that thing that you posted 3 years ago? or are you trying fit square pegs into round holes again.. that's the problem with you guys.. you twist and turn facts just so it would fit your hatred..

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by QADASHBANYAH
                  You must be a plain old ****** son???

                  Here we are in year three and now we hear testing is a non issue.

                  **** all that ego talk, mosley and ortiz are fighting right now because they heeded the request.

                  1.) 10 MILLION IS ABSURD FOR MANNY TO ASK FOR PER POUND. HE WASNT EVEN MAKING 10 MILLION PER FIGHT AT THE TIME!!!

                  2.) HE WANTED SMALLER GLOVES HE GOT THEM.

                  3.) HE WANTED A SMALLER RING HE GOT IT!!!

                  4.) HE WANTED A 50/50 SPLIT WHEN HE HADN'T DONE ANYTHING TO DESERVE THAT, BUT MAYWEATHER CONCEDED (BY THE WAY WHERE ARE THE OFFICIAL NUMBERS FOR PAC VS SHANE?)

                  FLOYD STATED OKAY SIMPLY TAKE A BLOOD AND URINE TEST, AND I WILL AS WELL....

                  THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH EGO. THE ACCUSATIONS CAME AFTER PAC REJECTED THIS OFFER.


                  AFTER PAC REJECTED THATS WHEN EVERYONE STARTED QUESTIONING WHY, AND STARTED HEARING ALL KINDS OF STUFF FROM PACS CAMP. BUT WHEN MAYWEATHER HAD THIS ON THE TABLE INITIALLY HE NEVER STATED PAC I THINK YOU ARE A CHEATER SO TAKE THIS TEST. AND IF HE HAD SO THE **** WHAT??? PAC WAS BASICALLY SAYING FLOYD YOU ARE A CHEATER AND YOU WILL COME IN HEAVY AND VIOLATE THE CONTRACTED WEIGHT, DID FLOYD BLOW A GASKET AND GET OFFENDED??

                  HELL NAW HE DIDNT!!!

                  SO SAVE THAT **** WHAT FOOL HAS AN EGO PROBLEM ABOUT A TEST FOR X3 YEARS?? YOU SEE HOW ****** THAT SOUNDS??

                  HAD PAC TAKEN THE TEST WITHOUT A HICCUP MOSLEY AND ORTIZ WOULD NOT BE TAKING IT NOW. IT SIMPLY VALIDATED TO FLOYD JR WHAT HIS FATHER WAS SAYING ABOUT THERE BEING A LOT OF DIRTY FIGHTERS.

                  SO HERE WE ARE IN X3 YEARS TEH ONLY HOLD UP HAS BEEN TESTING AND NOW MANNY AND ARUM ARE SAYING YES WITH NO CONTRACT I MIGHT ADD.

                  BUT STILL IF THEY AGREE NOW, THEN DOESNT THAT MAKE IT THEIR GODDAMN FAULT??

                  THIS IS ALL THE FLOYD FANS HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG, YOU *******S AHVE BEEN SHOOTING THE **** SAYING ******ED CRAP LIKE:

                  "Well if Floyd will make easy work of manny, how about he just fight him without the test...."

                  Knowing fully goddamn well if Floyd stated okay you dont have to test lets fight but I am not wearing 8 oz gloves, I dont agree to 10 million per pound, We are using a standard ring, and no longer 50/50 you would be saying look!!!! hes trying to throw the fight off!!!!"


                  Not realizing that Floyd has already conceded so much to a man that cant outsell him pay-per-view wise, wont be favored against Floyd in vegas, and a man that many think is a literal cheater.


                  You cant be that naive you are just ******ED!!
                  I would have mad respect for Floyd if he said this.. but he did not... AND to straighten on some facts,
                  1) 8 oz gloves is allowed in a 147lbs fight, Floyd can wear 10 oz gloves if he wanted to but Manny is not restricted to wear the same gloves as Floyd's,
                  2) they are using the STANDARD 20'x20' ring, what they did not agree upon is the use of the bigger 24'x24' ring that are meant for the big big heavyweights, and if you didn't notice both this fighters stands not more 5'8",
                  3) the 10 million per pound penalty will only take effect if ever Floyd go OVER the contracted 147lbs weight limit on the weigh in, so i don't get the issue here UNLESS Floyd is planning of coming in as a big MW in the weigh in,
                  4) 50/50 for a potential 100-200million superfight is i think fair enough on both sides, Floyd will not earn as much as this from any other fighter right now, even if he fights Oscar again he will not earn this much from a singular fight....

                  So your arguement of Floyd conceding so much already, I don't buy it, these are points in a negotiation that they both mutually agreed upon, points that didn't benefit just one fighter...

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                  • Vasyl’s dad
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by MindBat
                    How does Manny "agree to everything" but doesn't sign a contract to prove it?
                    How did Floyd agree to Mannys "demands",


                    without a signed contract to prove it?


                    Btw, it was Floyd who changed what random means in terms of Olympic drug testing.

                    Olympic drug testing is year round, in and out of competition.

                    Floyd wants his testing done only in training camps, which are only two months out of the year.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by MindBat
                      Shane took the test, no problem, no issues.

                      Ortiz is taking the test, no problem, no issues.

                      Pacquiao (Who never said: "No" to the tests) has a problem with testing until just recently?

                      I think you're as thick as a mule who's trying to spin it in your favor.
                      Morales fought Pac 3 times, no problems, no extra tests.
                      Barrera fought Pac 2 times, no problems, no extra tests.
                      Hatton fought Pac, no problems no extra tests.
                      DLH fought Pac, no problems, no extra tests.
                      Cotto fought Pac, no problems no extra tests.
                      Margarito fought Pac, no problems, no extra tests.
                      Shane fought Pac, no problems, no extra tests.
                      Marquez is going into his third fight with Manny, no problems, no extra tests.

                      So, whats the problem again?

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