Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: I Fought Floyd Jr, I Told Ortiz What Works

[WESS]

Hell, while we're at it... go find the post(s) where people here are giving advice?

I'll wait on that, too.

You just make shit up as you go. It's comical.

johnm is latin for verisimilitude.

[kiaba360]

NAW he didn't gass Grustler !!! That is a lame excuse.

De la Hoya was NERVOUS and he lost his energy stamina from that. He was not relaxed in the ring. He COULD NOT PULL THE TRIGGER !!!!!! HE didn't JAB after like round 5. Mayweather intimidated De La HOYA !!!!!

Three things Ortiz must do to win :

1. Don't Bum Rush like Hatton. Use continual smart pressure INSPITE of the ability of Jr. to FRUSTRATE.

Jr. can't knock you out unless you bumrush blind right into a fleeing check hook and I truly doubt he can KO ORTIZ even if he shut his eyes and stuck his chin out. He KO'd a bumrushing little man. Hey , hahaha,,,he couldn't KO a true featherweight, Old and fat and extremely little , JMM. haha

2. Ortiz must JAB , JAB , JAB, if he must fight 12 rounds or two , he must stick that Jab, the more the merrier, right up his nose, Mayweather can't stand a stiff snapping Jab, makes him go into his "wait on you to make mistakes", hey he could JAB him to death , hahaha

3. Ortiz must not stop punching like OLD MAN MOSLEY !!! OLD MOSLEY had Mayweather on ***** STREET, doing a dance called "half collaspe", you know where you are standing up but then you just collaspe straight down but catch yerself , hahaha !!!!!!! Ortiz must NOT stop punching, IF he hurts him, he needs to take it to a BRAND NEW LEVEL for Floyd, a place he has never been, new ground, deep in the trenches. He must hurt jr. again, put him on his butt, give him something to think about. You know his uncle thought alot about it, in his fight with Chavez, he was losing, his "BLUFF" wasn't working !!!!!!!! The Ali "shuffle" the round before to intimidate Chavez didn't work, so what did he do????? HE QUIT on his stool, the ref came over grabbed his head and said what are you doing boy? You QUIT, his head just hung low bobbling from the head grab of the ref.

THREE THINGS ORTIZ MUST DO and if he doesn't do all three he LOSES:

Fight thru the frustration caused by Jr. and apply massive smart pressure, never bumrush !!!!!!

Never stop Jabbing,,,gotta JAB JAB JAB

third,,never stop punching, when You LAND that KILLER PUNCH, you never stop punching like OLD MAN MOSLEY DID !!!!!

GOOOOOOOO ORTIZ !!!!!!

Well Ortiz is gonna be in for a long night then, cuz he has an ineffective jab. His style doesn't utilize the jab much, and when he throws it, it's more like a measuring stick but that's about it. He landed 2/121 jabs against Peterson, and 15/126 on Berto. Now tell me, wtf is he gonna do with a jab? lol, Floyd will look to counter over the top of it.

[junior gong]

Thats what some boxing "fans" seem to forget, Mayweather laid Hatton in the coffin and got little to no credit for beating the UNDEFEATED JWW Champion who believed he was the best. Pac capitalized on this beating and yes put the nail in the coffin, same with Mosley. What some "fans" don't realize is while Pac was hammering the nail in the coffin to a mentally destroyed already beaten fighter, Hatton had Floyd on the mind.

Point is, Hatton was mentally destroyed, even so that he fired his entire team. One could easily say he was doing coke at ANY given time before and after the Pac fight. Just because he didn't get caught doesn't mean he didn't do it. Everyone knew Hatton was done after Floyd laid him out just like everyone knew Mosley was done after the Mayweather AND Mora fight.

The fact Ricky "cried for weeks" validated his mental state let alone firing his entire team that he had for his entire career.

Nauseating bumsniffery.

[iNDOLiFER]

Thats what some boxing "fans" seem to forget, Mayweather laid Hatton in the coffin and got little to no credit for beating the UNDEFEATED JWW Champion who believed he was the best. Pac capitalized on this beating and yes put the nail in the coffin, same with Mosley. What some "fans" don't realize is while Pac was hammering the nail in the coffin to a mentally destroyed already beaten fighter, Hatton had Floyd on the mind.

Point is, Hatton was mentally destroyed, even so that he fired his entire team. One could easily say he was doing coke at ANY given time before and after the Pac fight. Just because he didn't get caught doesn't mean he didn't do it. Everyone knew Hatton was done after Floyd laid him out just like everyone knew Mosley was done after the Mayweather AND Mora fight.

The fact Ricky "cried for weeks" validated his mental state let alone firing his entire team that he had for his entire career.

lol.. yea floyd was on hatton's mind the whole time hahah... floyd just knows how to get into people's head, i've seen it first hand with the *****s. floyd retires his opponents from the beating he gives them.

[WESS]

lol.. yea floyd was on hatton's mind the whole time hahah... floyd just knows how to get into people's head, i've seen it first hand with the *****s. floyd retires his opponents from the beating he gives them.

Yes, even so that he hired Floyd's father and wanted to learn how to box just like Floyd.

[iNDOLiFER]

Yes, even so that he hired Floyd's father and wanted to learn how to box just like Floyd.

LOL.. ok buddy.. lets hope floyd is in marquez head also so pac can KO him LOL.. i bet floyd was in oscar's head and mosley too right? another thing i find funny, sr didnt train floyd its roger. so how does hiring sr relate to fighting like floyd?

[littlemac]

“Marquez’s advantages come into play even more against Mayweather than against Pacquiao,” De La Hoya said. “You can beat Mayweather with the jab and Marquez is going to do it.

Source...
(By Martin Rogers Yahoo Sports article)

[WESS]

LOL.. ok buddy.. lets hope floyd is in marquez head also so pac can KO him LOL.. i bet floyd was in oscar's head and mosley too right? another thing i find funny, sr didnt train floyd its roger. so how does hiring sr relate to fighting like floyd?

JMM and Mosley have nothing to do with Hatton and nor does any of Floyd's past opposition.

It is common knowledge that Sr trained Floyd the first 16 years. Sr bestowed the elements of boxing to Jr, Rodger improved it and they both are equally creditable for Mayweather being as great as he is today.

To say anything else is a lie. Try again.......

[twosweethooks]

Well Ortiz is gonna be in for a long night then, cuz he has an ineffective jab. His style doesn't utilize the jab much, and when he throws it, it's more like a measuring stick but that's about it. He landed 2/121 jabs against Peterson, and 15/126 on Berto. Now tell me, wtf is he gonna do with a jab? lol, Floyd will look to counter over the top of it.

I know Jr. cherry picked Ortiz.

What is so funny is this is the very FIRSTtrue top contending Welter Weight Jr. has EVER fought, hahaha

He Chicken Ducked all the others that are now beat to death and whupped by you know who !!!

This is new territory for JR. !!!!!! HIS @$$ may be GRASS mang.

Ortiz can KO you with either hand

Ortiz is fast

Ortiz is stronger and bigger

Jr. is getting OLD

Jr. is getting uglier like his daddy and uncle ROG hahaha

Ortiz can make Jr. CRUMBLE !!!!!!

ORTIZ TO WIN !!!!!!! HAHA[/SIZE] [/COLOR]

[iNDOLiFER]

JMM and Mosley have nothing to do with Hatton and nor does any of Floyd's past opposition.

It is common knowledge that Sr trained Floyd the first 16 years. Sr bestowed the elements of boxing to Jr, Rodger improved it and they both are equally creditable for Mayweather being as great as he is today.

To say anything else is a lie. Try again.......

IDK man, based off what some of yall *****s say on the hate thread for mayweather sr. yall said its roger who is responsible for what floyd is today not sr. remember the hate thread on sr. where every *****s was saying sr was in the wrong.