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  • #41
    Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
    If you really dig deep and take a good look at Floyds record, you would see that he fought and beat 15 world champions. Ortiz will be #16.

    You would also see that he beat a primed Corrales,Castillio, Hatton,.

    You would see a guy who won 6 titles in 5 weight classes without a loss.

    You would see a guy who has fought the same fighters that the fighter of the decade fought.

    You would see a guy who was ducked by a primed Mosley, Delahoya.

    You would see a guy who is a walking hall of famer.
    floyd made ricky come up to 147, where he had only 1 fight i believe, not to mention we all know hatton was overrated, don't blame floyd for taking the fight though. castillo is by far his most legit win. he came up to WW at perfect time, like manny. baldomir was champ, somehow, beat him then zab who proved he was mentally very weak in the ring against carlos, who he had recently lost to. its too bad cotto and margs weren't on top at that time, cuz those fights could have made floyd a fighter that the average fan actually respects, i don't know if i blame him for not fighting those guys, but floyd had a chance to clean out a division that was truly great at the time and instead he fought hatton and retired. WEAK, and that last bit there is why i personally dont respect him as a fighter.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by disolly View Post
      floyd made ricky come up to 147, where he had only 1 fight i believe, not to mention we all know hatton was overrated, don't blame floyd for taking the fight though. castillo is by far his most legit win. he came up to WW at perfect time, like manny. baldomir was champ, somehow, beat him then zab who proved he was mentally very weak in the ring against carlos, who he had recently lost to. its too bad cotto and margs weren't on top at that time, cuz those fights could have made floyd a fighter that the average fan actually respects, i don't know if i blame him for not fighting those guys, but floyd had a chance to clean out a division that was truly great at the time and instead he fought hatton and retired. WEAK, and that last bit there is why i personally dont respect him as a fighter.
      Floyd fought Ricky at 144....

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      • #43
        lol, heard it all before... and that's funny Ortiz because I was never impressed by YOU! Victor thinks he gonna go in there and overpower Floyd like power and strength matter that much, tell that to Yushin who got KO'ed by the smaller and weaker Silva last night...

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Ben d great View Post
          Is Floyd become a coward my answer is YES.
          Floyd demand on Pacman is not really PEDS reasons. He just scared like a cat who saw a big dog. First of all to test PEDS can be done in Urine, there’s a process of determining that, 2nd of those Manny’s adjustment for 14 days during their negotiations is just fair enough considering Manny has the point because the test is new to him and not the regular commissions way of testing and Manny’s Experienced during their Morales meeting is bad because of blood taken on him in a very closed to the fight. Therefore I’ll say Floyd demand is just a mental game that gone too far and of course is a sign of being afraid and COWARD.

          The boxing fans want Pac Vs chicken Floyd but chicken Floyd is so scared to fight, When He scared to somebody he will avoid all the way and his last option is to “Retire”. He did that to Cotto, Margarito, Mosley’s prime and now Pacquiao. Floyd fought Baldomir, Gatti, De la Hoya, Past prime Mosley and Smaller Marquez , That he even take advantage of having 2 Ibs above the agreed weights.
          In this new episode Floyd Fighting Ortiz, I would say it’s not really his target it was Berto. But since Berto was beat’n by Ortiz he was force to fight or else he will face a very cherry picking way. Although I would say this is a better match than his previous fights. Ortiz is young and quick in early rounds that is the most danger of this fight. Ortiz can knock out Floyd in a perfect combination. Left handed that will foiled Floyd Defense. I just hope after this fight Floyd won’t retire, he is very good of doing it other than good defense by cherry Picking. His Last option not to met Pacman in the ring is to retire again.
          I love how pac fans say floyd fought a past prime mosley and a smaller marquez but ignore the fact that pac fought them after floyd. Oh and english isn't your 1st language is it? Haha

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          • #45
            I do believe I've heard this from previous Mayweather opponents.

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            • #46
              People dog the Mayweather's and yes they deserve most of it, but one thing they do know is boxing and hince why we will never see a Floyd vs. Pac-Man fight. Floyd style is made to order for lefties. Before the Mosley fight the only guys to really hurt Floyd was Judah with a straight left and actually dropped him with a right hook. The other fight was against Chop Chop Corley with a right hook. Those guys were good fighters but not on the level of a Pacquiao... The test has not been an issue since May of 2010 when Manny agreed to all of Floyd's test which he shouldn't have done, (the state athletic commissions should make the rules) not an uneducated family from Grand Rapids. They know what will happen if they get in the ring with Manny. They heard Manny's complaint about he felt that he was weak for the first Morales fight because he had to give blood the day of the fight because his results were misplaced and they started screaming test. Know one asked for test or suspected Manny of being on PEDs before the Mayweathers. If you were saying he was a cheat before then, than I have no problem but if you only say he is a cheat because Floyd says so than that's bordline B*** **** because only women gossip and rumor like that. You can't fight 40 times under the rules and then say the rules need to be changed because Pac is just to good to be true... Bottom line a 34, 35 by the time they fight flat-footed Mayweather would be KOed in 5 by a fast hard-punching lefty like Pac. I think they saw what I saw in the Ortiz vs. Berto and Maidana fights and they think that they will get him because he is a sucker for the right hand and his defense is VERY suspect. But we never know. As a black man I deploy Floyd's antics and stunts but what I can't take away from him and his family is their knowledge of the sport. Not fighting Cotto 05 - 08, Margarito 05 - 08, or Mosley after the Vargas fights (he only wanted to give him 4 months to recover from two fights agianst Vargas at 154 and then come back to 147 in 4 months). Not fighting Tszyu at 140 and etc. etc. Floyd would have been the favorite and probably won all of those fights but they were just too risky. And fighting Pac past 33 years-old is just too risky. I would like to believe that Ortiz has a shot but knowing and respecting the Mayweathers' knowledge of the sport. They wouldn't take the fight if they felt Ortiz had more than a 15% chance of winning. So I'll have to pick Mayweather in this one.

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              • #47
                floyd will never fight the pacman. that's the bottom line. floyd will never take the test -- the pacquiao test.

                in pacquiao's mind he already agreed to floyd's ****** ost. this is all on video. pacman even jokes of being tested after every round. "because i want to know that that is really the reason."

                turned out that that is really not the reason.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View Post
                  If Floyd Mayweather is a hype job.......................Then what is Ortiz?
                  This guy has fought a bunch of journey men.

                  Cambell, Vivian Harris, etc.
                  He also fought Peterson and Berto, two young guys that are also hype jobs.

                  Is Pacquaio a hype job? He has fought 4 guys that Floyd has fought.

                  You can make a case that every fighter out their is a hype job which just sounds ******.
                  By the way YOU sound ****** !!

                  Name ONE, not three or two, just ONE , name one Prime top contender in the Welter Weight division that Jr. has fought in the last 6-7 years !!

                  I will wait for your ****** answer.

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                  • #49
                    Is welterweight the only f-cking division that Floyd has fought in?

                    So nothing he did before welterweight matters?

                    Wasn't Hatton 43-0 and coming off a KO win over Castillio when Floyd fought him at welterweight?

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by twosweethooks View Post
                      By the way YOU sound ****** !!

                      Name ONE, not three or two, just ONE , name one Prime top contender in the Welter Weight division that Jr. has fought in the last 6-7 years !!

                      I will wait for your ****** answer.

                      Is welterweight the only f-cking division that Floyd has fought in?

                      So nothing he did before welterweight matters?

                      Wasn't Hatton 43-0 and coming off a KO win over Castillio when Floyd fought him at welterweight?

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