Freddie Roach Thinks Wlad Hits Harder than Tyson Ever Did.Do you know more than Roach

[Battle*Hardened]

Roach is an idiot who says a lot of shit.

[Forza]

Shavers had overrated power but still hit harder than tyson, much harder.

[SplitSecond]

Roach is an idiot who says a lot of shit.

you're an armchair warrior, probabley never been to the gym, how much about boxing could you possibly know more than someone who's life has been boxing ever since he started boxing at 6?

[Steak]

So where is the cut off then? could a Fly weight boxer hit harder than a CW in your estimation?

Weight is is factor in power.

obviously weight is a factor. but its only one factor out of many.

reality is you dont need much weight behind a punch to knock someone out. after that a lot of it is speed and placement, and also your ability to brace and carry the power through in your punch.

weighing 190lbs is quite enough weight to knock out pretty much anyone. for most people, weighing over 220lbs starts to slow you down and a decrease in speed of course decreases the power of the punch. Tony Thompson is sadly an outstanding example of this. He is slow as crap and despite being a big guy(240lb+), he himself says he cant 'punch his way out of a paper bag'.

look at someone like Zuri Lawrence. son of a ***** never had a knockout in his career, despite weighing 230lbs, and actually was kind of a contender after his win over McCline. surely youre not going to suggest Lawrence has a power advantage over say Floyd Patterson or David Haye.

If thats an unfair comparison, look at Valuev. bastard weighs 310+lbs, but honestly cant punch for crap when faced agaisnt ANY top ten opposition. Valuev was title holder for a while and top ten, I think even top 5 at one point, in the 2000s. Please dont tell me you think Valuev hits harder than Patterson or Haye, despite his 100+lb weight advantage.

also my post mostly had to do with weight=punch resistance, but, I guess we will move on.

[Forza]

Wlad could weight 220 and still hit harder than tyson.

He's a bigger man, a more athletic specimen, has longer arms, etc etc there is no comparison

[Poet682006]

Wlad could weight 220 and still hit harder than tyson.

He's a bigger man, a more athletic specimen, has longer arms, etc etc there is no comparison

Unfortunately for you "being white" isn't an athletic attribute. Back to the drawing board Goebbels :loser9:

Poet

[JAB5239]

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IDK about that, its up in the air could be but I doubt anyone else comes close to either of the two.

Lennox Lewis has to be in the mix.

[Uturn]

Punch for punch probably.

Difference is Tyson was explosive and bombarded you with hurtful punches.

If their PSI was to be measured then Wlad probably packs more power than Tyson.

[The Noose]

Tyson's power was HUGELY overrated because he blasted out bums early in his career.

Also, tyson is restricted by size ( 5'11 220 vs 6'6 240 lbs )

Lots of HW's hit a lot harder than tyson

This is true.

But 99% of HW's dont come near to Tysons speed, combinations, footwork, athleticism, reflexes, timing and accuracy. At his best.

People think Tyson = power. And over look why he was able to dominate the division in his youth, but not after he returned from prison.

[New England]

Tyson would be 230 if not 240 into today's level of resources and advancements in sports science.....

lol what?

what?