LOL @ anyone who thinks Floyd ruins fighters.

[bojangles1987]

Also off topic/ I dont think Pascal will be ruined by the Hops loss like Pavlik. However Hopkins will ruin Chad Dawson. Hes soft as hell.

I hope not. I'd love to see a renewed Dawson at 175 when Ward, Dirrell, Froch, Bute, and the 168ers move up.

[jrosales13]

Joe Calzaghe ruined Jeff Lacy.

I disagree, he was just exposed to being over hyped more than anything.

[Pacquiao'd]

I didn't because I didn't feel Hatton was ruined.

But, if you felt that he was ruined. Then how can you say that a guy like Hatton should beat Malignaggi.

That's why I asked. Ruined and all.

ruined is a strong word. but i dont think that Hatton was the same after the loss to Floyd.

[IronDanHamza]

I disagree, he was just exposed to being over hyped more than anything.

Definitely agree with this.

Man, Lacy was bad.

[jrosales13]

ruined is a strong word. but i dont think that Hatton was the same after the loss to Floyd.

Maybe not the same. But, not much was loss IMO. He never had a granite chin, he was still tough, he still could pull the trigger, he wasn't hesitate in that aspect. He was still fight in the trenches.

I don't he probably wasn't the same but for sure he wasn't ruined or shot or done. The Malignaggi fight proves that.

[jrosales13]

Definitely agree with this.

Man, Lacy was bad.

Fringe contenders/journeyman was fighting competitive against Lacy prior to Calzaghe.

He was undefeated but he wasn't what he was made out to be.

[daggum]

I disagree, he was just exposed to being over hyped more than anything.

lacy was the next tyson how dare you. life and death struggle with omar sheika, getting outboxed by syd vanderpool, rubin williams, and some guy named donnell wiggins before getting stoppages. what other hot prospect gets outboxed by such mediocre competition? why would anyone hype this guy up? i'm convinced it was mostly frank warren and british television and no one even knew who lacy was in america. they just looked at calzaghe's record and said "yeah this guys a euro bum lacy will kill him"

[madsweeney]

I drew the distinction between what Pac does and what Floyd does because both are harming...but in different ways.

I listen to fighters during post-fight (or weeks after) interviews with Floyd and they literally don't know what happened in there.

Not that they were physically dazed, but they don't know what adjustments FMJ made, why they can't get off, why they can't stop him from hitting them. It's frustrating and disconcerting.

More than any other fighter, I see Floyd's opponents dejected on the stool or being yelled at by their trainers.

Floyd has said it, and Andre Ward quoted Floyd in a recent interview: It doesn't look that hard. "Yeah, he has the record, and he has some speed. But I don't see him being anything special". Then you get in there and it's no fun.

Pac - Shaq
Floyd = Akeem/Tim Duncan

Wonder if Floyd would pull that against Pac, he'd be leaning his head right into that left-hookercut he likes to throw.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Fringe contenders/journeyman was fighting competitive against Lacy prior to Calzaghe.

He was undefeated but he wasn't what he was made out to be.

at least he beat up Robin Reid...i was never a fan of his Vulcan eyebrow


after that fight, i was on that WAR LATE HOOK! wagon

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Naw Lacy wasnt good before he fought Joe. We know he was hyped.

Poor kid got the hell beat out of him for 12 uncontested rounds and was never the same again. Joe took years off his career in that fight.