LOL @ anyone who thinks Floyd ruins fighters.

[Gino Ros]

How does that ruin fighters? They go on to have good or great wins after, except for the fighters at the end of their careers like Gatti or Mosley. Being dejected during a fight is not the same as ruining a fighter.

J-Ro, did i say fighters were ruined?

I gave my perspective on what I think a fighter "is" during and after. I avoid use of the word (or any synonym of) ruin.

I think fighters are changed by many fights. hatton was certainly changed by the FMJ fight. You feel his chin wasn't dented, and I disagree based on him getting hurt by Lazcano.

His habits worsened after the Floyd fight and his confidence was shot FOR MONTHS.

[Pacquiao'd]

ill say this, floyd snapping your head back over and over without knocking you out does your body no favors. in the long run, getting repeatedly smacked around like that is more damaging than just being knocked out. well that's what science says anyways.

this.......................

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I saw that interview.

It's true, something left Hatton after that loss. Not everything, but something.

I don't think it's anything physically with Hatton, and I don't think he was 'ruined' per se. But, he wasn't the same.

Hattons whole thing was being undefeated, invincible, unbreakable, unstoppable etc that was his whole mentality. 'no one can beat him'.

Once he was beaten, legitilly and offically. Knocked out none the less. Mentally, it took something from him.

But I don't think he was 'ruined' and I do think he was very very game against Pacquaio and the win was still exceptional.

Abit similar to Sugar Ramos. Ish.

I could feel Hattons pain. I saw all the build up tp that fight and unlike most people who fight Floyd I geninely felt that Hatton KNEW he would win the fight and for him to get KO'd in silly cartoon fashion was kind of messed up.

There wasnt a doubt in Rickys mind that he would beat Mayweather. Not one. So he had a long fall down.

[jrosales13]

J-Ro, did i say fighters were ruined?

I gave my perspective on what I think a fighter "is" during and after. I avoid use of the word (or any synonym of) ruin.

I think fighters are changed by many fights. hatton was certainly changed by the FMJ fight. You feel his chin wasn't dented, and I disagree based on him getting hurt by Lazcano.

His habits worsened after the Floyd fight and his confidence was shot FOR MONTHS.

What?

Are you calling me to be the ref between you and bojangles or something?

[Pacquiao'd]

Ruined and all?

yes.

tell me, Jro. did you think that Malinaggi posed a threat what so ever to Hatton when the fight was signed? i doubt you did. i know i didnt. nor do i think his win over Paulie has any significance

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

That's what I'm talking about.

Physically I don't think Hopkins has ruined anyone.

But you could say he has mentally.

Yeah Im with you. Pavlik went to a total head case. Im anxious to see how Pascal bounces back. Imo I dont think losing to Hops will affect Pascal at all. Hes a different breed of guy imo. I hink hell be fine.

But my goodness Pavlik went crazy..lol.

[bojangles1987]

J-Ro, did i say fighters were ruined?

I gave my perspective on what I think a fighter "is" during and after. I avoid use of the word (or any synonym of) ruin.

I think fighters are changed by many fights. hatton was certainly changed by the FMJ fight. You feel his chin wasn't dented, and I disagree based on him getting hurt by Lazcano.

His habits worsened after the Floyd fight and his confidence was shot FOR MONTHS.

Wasn't that the point you were making? That Floyd ruins fighters one way and Pacquiao ruins fighters another way? If not I apologize, I mistook the point of what you were saying.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Joe Calzaghe ruined Jeff Lacy.

[jrosales13]

tell me, Jro. did you think that Malinaggi posed a threat what so ever to Hatton when the fight was sign, i doubt you did. i know i didnt. nor do i think his win over Paulie has any significance

I didn't because I didn't feel Hatton was ruined.

But, if you felt that he was ruined. Then how can you say that a guy like Hatton should beat Malignaggi.

That's why I asked. Ruined and all.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Also off topic/ I dont think Pascal will be ruined by the Hops loss like Pavlik. However Hopkins will ruin Chad Dawson. Hes soft as hell.