Let's Keep It Real... WHo's The MORE DoMINANT kLITSCHKO??

[Jack Napier]

Vit losing steam because he's older
but he's still more badass than Wlad is
he's tougher and did better with better fighters
Wlad's wins on Byrd are better than any of Vit's
but Vit owned him too, just had to stop due to injury
he'd beat Wlad head to head
doesn't seem as vulnerable as Wlad

[NET]

First off you have no proof the Klits would beat Foreman or vice versa. Second, you show how limited your knowledge is by calling Lyle a brawler. Lyle was a boxer/puncher who worked behind the jab. And lastly, please explain to me how this era is better than the 90's, 80's or 70's? If I didn't already know you have no concept of boxing history I might be inclined to explain exactly why this is the WORST era in heavyweight history.

By the way.....if Corrie Sanders could bum rush Wlad and put him to sleep, what do you think Foreman would do to him?

They would win because they're better. Foreman was slow and easy to hit.

At least Sanders had fast hands.

[Barry Halls]

Ibeabuchi beat Byrd and Tua and then went crazy. Tyson lost every big fight he had and was overrated as hell. Holyfield had heart problems for most of the 90's and lost to Bowe and Lewis badly. Moorer had one big win against an old (even back then) Holyfield and then lost to a fat old man.

1. Ibeabuchi beat byrd in 1999.

2. 90s tyson is far better than anyone from this current era not named Klitschko. If you disagree, who is better?

3. Holyfield was badly beaten by bowe? Did you see the fights?
I guess his heart healed as hes still cleared to fight. He also beat pretty much anyone in the division worthy of it except for lennox.

Tua? lol.. Morrison, lol. I think people just tend to romanticize the past when America was still somewhat relevant.

Tua, lol. Yes lol. So lol that he in august 2011 was thought worthy enough to fight klitschko for the title. That says something about this era if you find a prime, 10 years younger Tua a joke.

Whats wrong with Morrison? Is he not better than Haye, Sosnowski, Peter, Ibragimov, chisora and the rest of the gang?

Im not american, im from europe.

I doubt Foreman could get inside on Wlad. He was way too slow and easy to hit.

Alright

[JAB5239]

They would win because they're better. Foreman was slow and easy to hit.

At least Sanders had fast hands.

Again you show just how limited your knowledge really is. First, how can they be better when the comp they fight hardly compares to the comp Foreman fought? Second, if Foreman was so slow than why was he able to cut off the ring so successfully on Ali and force him to revise his strategy to the rope a dope? You don't actually think that was Ali's strategy, to lay on the ropes, do you?

[NET]

Again you show just how limited your knowledge really is. First, how can they be better when the comp they fight hardly compares to the comp Foreman fought? Second, if Foreman was so slow than why was he able to cut off the ring so successfully on Ali and force him to revise his strategy to the rope a dope? You don't actually think that was Ali's strategy, to lay on the ropes, do you?

Considering the fact that he willfully stayed with his back on the ropes from the start and considering the fact that Ali loved to use his legs and could've danced around Foreman if he wanted to, yes.

I think he did it on purpose cuz' he saw how wide Foremans punches were that he knew he could roll and slip them at will.

[NET]

1. Ibeabuchi beat byrd in 1999.

2. 90s tyson is far better than anyone from this current era not named Klitschko. If you disagree, who is better?

3. Holyfield was badly beaten by bowe? Did you see the fights?
I guess his heart healed as hes still cleared to fight. He also beat pretty much anyone in the division worthy of it except for lennox.


Tua, lol. Yes lol. So lol that he in august 2011 was thought worthy enough to fight klitschko for the title. That says something about this era if you find a prime, 10 years younger Tua a joke.

Whats wrong with Morrison? Is he not better than Haye, Sosnowski, Peter, Ibragimov, chisora and the rest of the gang?

Im not american, im from europe.


Alright

I trolled a bit on that last response. The 90's probably have a few better fighters but I don't think the gap is nearly as wide as people make it out to be.

[JAB5239]

Considering the fact that he willfully stayed with his back on the ropes from the start and considering the fact that Ali loved to use his legs and could've danced around Foreman if he wanted to, yes.

I think he did it on purpose cuz' he saw how wide Foremans punches were that he knew he could roll and slip them at will.

Let me educate you son.

Ali started the first round attacking Foreman. This was notable, as Ali was famed for his speed and technical skills, while Foreman's raw power was his greatest strength; close range fighting would, it seemed, inevitably favor Foreman and leave too great a chance that Ali would be stunned by one or more of Foreman's powerful haymakers. Ali made use of the right-hand lead punch (striking with the right hand without setting up with the left) in a further effort to disorient Foreman. However, while this aggressive tactic may have surprised Foreman and it did allow Ali to hit him solidly a number of times, it failed to significantly hurt him. Before the end of the first round, Foreman caught up to Ali and began landing a few punches of his own. Foreman had also been trained to cut off the ring, preventing escape.Ali realized that he would tire if Foreman could keep making one step to Ali's two, so he changed tactics.

Now please tell me, are either Klit faster than Ali was?

[edgarg]

Wlad got floored 3 times by Sam Peter.



Vitali took 3 years off came back and white washed Sam Peter into retirement.

First time Sam Peter has been stopped in his career.

You are in error. Klitschko was NOT floored 3 times by Peter. The first was a blatantly illegal rabbit punch, immediately remarked on by the Commentators. The second was a MISSED left hook and a right glove grab to Klitschko's shoulder pushing him to the canvas. ALSO remarked on by all three commentators. The 3rd was a missed punch or very sligh graze resulting from Peter's last despairing rush across the ring, causing Klitschko to backpedal overquickly, stumble backwards into the ropes already falling and bouncing to the canvas, feom where he got up IMMEDIATELY. Peter's right hand swing either just missed or just grazed, it didn't move Kliitschko's head one little bit and he was already falling.

He got up, IMMEDIATELY by count of 2, and carried on giving Peter his boxing lesson. The ref Randy Neumann was as blind as a bat and gave all 3 as KD's. Nevertheless, all 3 judges gave ever other round to Klitschko. right acrodd the board..

You should replay that fight and particularly watch the "KD'S" on slo-mo, and you'll then see that I am correct. Klitschko even mentioned these illegalities in his after fight-interview.

[betmen]

1. Ibeabuchi beat byrd in 1999.

2. 90s tyson is far better than anyone from this current era not named Klitschko. If you disagree, who is better?

3. Holyfield was badly beaten by bowe? Did you see the fights?
I guess his heart healed as hes still cleared to fight. He also beat pretty much anyone in the division worthy of it except for lennox.


Tua, lol. Yes lol. So lol that he in august 2011 was thought worthy enough to fight klitschko for the title. That says something about this era if you find a prime, 10 years younger Tua a joke.

Whats wrong with Morrison? Is he not better than Haye, Sosnowski, Peter, Ibragimov, chisora and the rest of the gang?

Im not american, im from europe.


Alright

Nice post my man, you burn him to the ground.....

[edgarg]

i would have to agree.. this is the third slugger that Vitali has faced who gave his brother fits .. ko'ing him or knocking him down.. MAYBE 8 times IN those 3 bouts & Vitali spanked all of them into submission.

That's 3 common opponents that all nearly destroyed his brother.. If that's not the proof as to who is the more dominant fighter between the 2.. i don't know what is & yes Wlad fared much better against Byrd But that's not ana indication of anything as we all know the Byrd'Vitali fight was an incomplete one.. based on rds won.. they did pretty much the same against Byrd.

. Wlad knocked Byrd down numerous times in both fights & gets the nod... but it's the fighters that come to fight that is the true indicator.. Byrd is a dfensive minded fighter & perhaps Wlad showed more patience against him while Vitali was getting pissed because he couldn't tag him cleanly & get him out of there like Ike had done before him.

Jimmy I'm surprised at your post, it is a joke, and I don't lightly say this. I thought you were more perceptive when the Klitschkos were fighting.