Let's Keep It Real... WHo's The MORE DoMINANT kLITSCHKO??

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    #21
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
    Vitali is the better guy.

    Him losing to Lennox, is a higher quality fight than any win Wlad has.
    but he didn't lose to Lewis...something something 1 months notice....something something ahead on the scorecards

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      #22
      Originally posted by DOMINATION
      Wlad is the universally recognized #1 HW. He's in the RING top 5 p4p, he has the better resume, better wins, more belts, more title defenses, etc. Statistically, he is the 2nd most dominant HW Champ of all time behind Vitali.

      Vitali is the most dominant HW Champ of all time. He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced. Has never been behind on the scorecards at the end of a fight. Has never been knocked down. Has the greatest heavyweight champ KO% of all time. He's 40 years old now, came back after a 4 year layoff and is still dominating the HW division. Hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.

      It's a shame that injuries/4 year layoff robbed Vitali of a stronger resume. He was WBC and RING undisputed HW Champ when he retired in 2004. We never got to see his true prime. If he had stayed healthy, he would've dominated the HW division from 2005-2008 and his resume would've been on par with Wlad's great resume.
      Everything in here is factual as usual.. with no bias whatsoever.. telling it like it is.. Good Job.. I always speak on behalf of Vitali's dominance but when it comes to the numbers.. little bro is runnerup in all categories.. scorecard ratio... Ko RATIO. RIGHT behind Marciano.. only thing that kinda ruins it is the nearly dozen knockdowns to various opponents & the excessive clinching & cautionary ways. Vitali has None of those attributes.. he's always aggressive.. NEVER Goes down & only utilyzes clinches when necessary like a normal big as he keeps his opponents away with his fists if they try to come in.

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        #23
        Vitali hands down but Wlad is still a beast.

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          #24
          Who cares? Vitaly is tough and ok to watch, but most of his comp wouldn't even be sparring partners 15, 20 years ago let alone top 10 ranked fighters. Wlads comp is slightly better but still not very good and he fights as if he wants to put the viewers to sleep instead of his opponents. On the up side, they're easily the two best heavyweights overalll since Lennox Lewis retired.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
            Vitali hands down but Wlad is still a beast.

            What is beastly about jab, jab, grab? Jab, jab, right hand, grab? With his size and gifts he should be taking out todays top 10 pretenders with ease. Problem is he is afraid to get hit.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              What is beastly about jab, jab, grab? Jab, jab, right hand, grab? With his size and gifts he should be taking out todays top 10 pretenders with ease. Problem is he is afraid to get hit.
              You act like other heavyweight era's were so strong. 90's was bum central. 80's same thing. 70's gets overrated by nostalgic xenophobe Americans.

              Look at Foreman/Lyle. Lyle was a brawler who learned how to box in prison and hit Foreman with right hands at will.

              Either Klitschko would destroy Foreman who is considered an ATG hw by most people.

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                #27
                Originally posted by NET
                You act like other heavyweight era's were so strong. 90's was bum central. 80's same thing. 70's gets overrated by nostalgic xenophobe Americans.

                Look at Foreman/Lyle. Lyle was a brawler who learned how to box in prison and hit Foreman with right hands at will.

                Either Klitschko would destroy Foreman who is considered an ATG hw by most people.
                90s bum central?
                Bums like Lennox, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer, Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Ibeabuchi. The 90s puts todays era to shame.

                70s overrated? Maybe so, but it's still the best hw era of all time imo. Well the early to mid 70s at least. The 60s is solid as hell too. Actually around 64/65-75/76 is probably my favorite years.

                Either klitschko would destroy foreman?
                Yeah, I'm sure Wlads chin would hold up with ease in that fight.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by NET
                  You act like other heavyweight era's were so strong. 90's was bum central. 80's same thing. 70's gets overrated by nostalgic xenophobe Americans.

                  Look at Foreman/Lyle. Lyle was a brawler who learned how to box in prison and hit Foreman with right hands at will.

                  Either Klitschko would destroy Foreman who is considered an ATG hw by most people.

                  First off you have no proof the Klits would beat Foreman or vice versa. Second, you show how limited your knowledge is by calling Lyle a brawler. Lyle was a boxer/puncher who worked behind the jab. And lastly, please explain to me how this era is better than the 90's, 80's or 70's? If I didn't already know you have no concept of boxing history I might be inclined to explain exactly why this is the WORST era in heavyweight history.

                  By the way.....if Corrie Sanders could bum rush Wlad and put him to sleep, what do you think Foreman would do to him?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by NET
                    Vitali is way better. He's a real fighter with much more wrinkles in his game.

                    If that doesn't convince just try to imagine a fight between Vitali and Wlad, lol.

                    Vitali by easy k.o.
                    I'm not sure about that also Vitali could be out of his prime, Wladimir is in his prime.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Harry Balls
                      90s bum central?
                      Bums like Lennox, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer, Morrison, Mercer, Tua, Ibeabuchi. The 90s puts todays era to shame.
                      Ibeabuchi beat Byrd and Tua and then went crazy. Tyson lost every big fight he had and was overrated as hell. Holyfield had heart problems for most of the 90's and lost to Bowe and Lewis badly. Moorer had one big win against an old (even back then) Holyfield and then lost to a fat old man.

                      Tua? lol.. Morrison, lol. I think people just tend to romanticize the past when America was still somewhat relevant.


                      Either klitschko would destroy foreman?
                      Yeah, I'm sure Wlads chin would hold up with ease in that fight.
                      I doubt Foreman could get inside on Wlad. He was way too slow and easy to hit.

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