Winner of Ward/Froch better than Calzaghe's career or no?

[daggum]

lol americanbot you are the man, but come on, calzaghe is a lot better than you are giving credit for! he was in the twilight of his career when he fought hopkins and jones; his hands were brittle and weary from all the beatdowns they dished out over the years.

calzaghe beat hopkins - he did what he had to do to win the fight, just like hopkins does. i agree that he probably should have rematched him, but to what end? it would have been the same result - and the fight would have been a financial bust. . .

now lewis/klitschko - THAT'S a fight where a rematch should have happened. no clear winner in the first fight, and the rematch would have been extremely lucrative.

fool the judges with a bunch of inaccurate slap punches while getting hit with cleaner shots over and over? hopkins made him miss. why don't you give credit to hopkins for having good defense-an actual scoring criteria unlike missing and throwing a lot which are not.

[RichCCFC]

btw

21 Title defences
WBC,WBA,WBO + IBF Champ
Linear Champ
2 weight champion

vs

2 time WBC Champion
3 defences (between two reigns)


and

WBA Champion
3 title defences

[SirTomJones]

hopkins buckled calzaghe's legs on about 5 occasions and on 3 occasions hurt him so badly calzaghe cowardly turned his back to avoid punishment but i guess you forgot about this because hopkins faked low blows! that's all you can talk about. calzaghe wanted a rest after getting hit with legal blows. hopkins wanted a rest after getting hit with illegal blows. oh how calzaghe fans can spin things.

Time for you to post your little videos again?

You watch Calzaghe - Hopkins at least 3 times daily.

You should try becoming a boxing fan and not a Calzaghe - Hopkins obsessive.

Take care.

[daggum]

lets see

Calzaghe's best win - Hopkins
Froch's best win - Pascal
Ward's best win - Kessler

Calzaghe wins

Calzaghe's next best win - Kessler
Froch's next best win - Dirrell (?)
Ward's next best win - Bika

Calzaghe's next best win - Eubank
Froch's next best win - Taylor
Ward's next best win - Abraham

Froch is getting close, Ward no where near.

eubank? i'm surprised you didn't say roy jones lol. eubank was way past it. he was just a big name but not a good fighter when calzaghe fought him.

[daggum]

Time for you to post your little videos again?

You watch Calzaghe - Hopkins at least 3 times daily.

You should try becoming a boxing fan and not a Calzaghe - Hopkins obsessive.

Take care.

my little videos that show hopkins outlanding calzaghe and making him miss everything? aka the fight. and i should become a boxing fan? you should learn how to score boxing matches. they aren't won on missing. they are won on making your opponent miss and hitting him in return. exactly what hopkins did. but according to you he acted like a tard in the last couple rounds so he deserves to lose. too bad it doesn't work that way. you can't just pick who you think is the manlier guy and score the fight for him. boxing does have rules. calzaghe didn't win the fight according to the rules. only people who score based on emotion have him winning.

[UglyPug]

fool the judges with a bunch of inaccurate slap punches while getting hit with cleaner shots over and over? hopkins made him miss. why don't you give credit to hopkins for having good defense-an actual scoring criteria unlike missing and throwing a lot which are not.

taking hopkins defense into account, i still think calzaghe controlled the majority of the fight. . . even if most of the punches were not landing cleanly, hopkins has never been NOT able to control the pace of a fight. his tactics were rendered useless - calzaghe was able to push him around the ring and shovel punches into his face and chest all night. the one clean counter punch here and there isn't enough to win a round.

and what about hopkins disgraceful acting? trying to buy time because of his inferior stamina.

[SirTomJones]

my little videos that show hopkins outlanding calzaghe and making him miss everything? aka the fight. and i should become a boxing fan? you should learn how to score boxing matches. they aren't won on missing. they are won on making your opponent miss and hitting him in return. exactly what hopkins did. but according to you he acted like a tard in the last couple rounds so he deserves to lose. too bad it doesn't work that way. you can't just pick who you think is the manlier guy and score the fight for him. boxing does have rules. calzaghe didn't win he fight according to the rules. only people who score based on emotion have him winning.

Out of interest what was your scorecard for that night?

[americanbot]

taking hopkins defense into account, i still think calzaghe controlled the majority of the fight. . . even if most of the punches were not landing cleanly, hopkins has never been NOT able to control the pace of a fight. his tactics were rendered useless - calzaghe was able to push him around the ring and shovel punches into his face and chest all night. the one clean counter punch here and there isn't enough to win a round.

and what about hopkins disgraceful acting? trying to buy time because of his inferior stamina.

dude. calzaghie was missing & throwing slaps. most of calzaghies shots hit elbows & arms. (in other words they were blocked) & many times calzaghie would come forward but throw nothing because he was afraid of being countered. many of the rounds that were scored for calzaghie was due to crowd interference. the crowd would ROAR for a blocked glancing slap & the judges would count it as some kind of power punch. (the crowd would scream loud for ANYTHING calzaghie did even when he started clowning around) hopkins had everything against him......calzaghie even said that he was beat up bruised & made to look silly. calzaghie was outboxed. hurt, & disrupted by a old hopkins in that fight......

thats not a win. it's called getting a GIFT.

& when you run from a rematch it makes it all the worse........(BTW hopkins was MUCH older then calzaghie begging calzghie for the rematch. not the other way around)

[daggum]

Out of interest what was your scorecard for that night?

it depends how generous to calzaghe you are but 115-112 or 116-111 are probably the most accurate scorecards of that fight. calzaghe didn't clearly win a round till round 9. you could conceivably give the first 8 to hopkins and it wouldn't be incorrect.

[daggum]

taking hopkins defense into account, i still think calzaghe controlled the majority of the fight. . . even if most of the punches were not landing cleanly, hopkins has never been NOT able to control the pace of a fight. his tactics were rendered useless - calzaghe was able to push him around the ring and shovel punches into his face and chest all night. the one clean counter punch here and there isn't enough to win a round.

and what about hopkins disgraceful acting? trying to buy time because of his inferior stamina.

how do you control a fight if you can't land anything clean and you keep running into clean punches? it's an illusion. hatton wasn't in control vs mayweather, williams wasn't in control vs lara, etc...

why are zero clean slaps better than actually landing clean punches on your opponent? you do know it's much harder to actually hit your opponent than not him right? hell i could not hit someone over and over. where's the boxing in that though? if someone busts me up but i threw more did i win? maybe in bizzaro world.