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Winner of Ward/Froch better than Calzaghe's career or no?
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostCalzaghe and Hopkins fought at light heavyweight, so that should not be included. That makes Kessler his best win, A past it and unmotivated Eubank his second best win, and an exposed Jeff Lacy who never beat an A class fighter during his career as his third best win. Sorry my man, but that is a very thin resume.
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Originally posted by ИATAS206 View Posthe would have accomplished more at 168 in 2 years than Calzaghe did in 10 years. He would still need to unify the other belts though by beating bute.
Joe did good work at the ass end of his career
Froch and Ward done more in the S6 than Joe in many yrs over
but Joe was undisputed, winner of S6 has to top that
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Originally posted by bojangles1987 View PostIf Froch wins, yes. I'd have more respect for what Froch has done in his career than what Calzaghe did.
Plus Calzaghe beat Bernard Hopkins.
What has Froch done that compares to any of that? His best win is over Pascal. (Who Hopkins just beat at the age of 46.)
Calzaghe>Froch no matter how ya' slice it.
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Originally posted by Jack Napier View Postagreed on this
Joe did good work at the ass end of his career
Froch and Ward done more in the S6 than Joe in many yrs over
but Joe was undisputed, winner of S6 has to top that
Joe wasn't undisputed till the Kessler fight and than moved up. I could be wrong about this, but I think Im right.
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with undisputed do you guys mean lineal champ?
If so, i think Calzaghe gained that when he beat lacy. Could be wrong though.
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Originally posted by Squizz View PostWhat? How is that even possible? Froch already lost to Kessler, the same Kessler who Calzaghe beat. (A better version of Kessler, at that!)
Plus Calzaghe beat Bernard Hopkins.
What has Froch done that compares to any of that? His best win is over Pascal. (Who Hopkins just beat at the age of 46.)
Calzaghe>Froch no matter how ya' slice it.
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Originally posted by Harry Balls View Postwith undisputed do you guys mean lineal champ?
If so, i think Calzaghe gained that when he beat lacy. Could be wrong though.Last edited by JAB5239; 08-23-2011, 11:58 PM.
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Originally posted by JAB5239 View PostI don't think Froch beats Ward, but if he does he has certainly beaten a much higher caliber of fighters in 3 years than Calzaghe did his entire time at 168. As far as Calzaghe's title defenses.....I don't put much stock in paper titles that allow a fighter to defend against weak comp the vast majority of his reign.
If Ward wins he still has a little bit more before surpassing Calzaghe. But he's still young and on a far faster track of credible opponents than Calzaghe was fighting for his first 9 years as a titlist. If Andre goes on to beat Froch and then Bute, I think he has easy sailing for the rest of his time at 168 and becomes the divisions all time greatest fighter.
Head to head though, I don't think ANY of them are comparable to a prime Roy Jones. Unfortunately his resume also falls short at 168 in spite of his incredible talent.
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