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Froch Tells Ward: Don't butt me like you butted Mikkel Kessler.

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  • #41
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
    I think will no only beat Ward but will outbox him as well. Froch's footwork and handspeed are very underrated, Froch is also more adept at throwing combinations and has a good inside game too, and if Ward wants the rough stuff, Froch can bring that too.
    No he doesn't. What fights have you been watching?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
      I'm sure the headgames before the fight didn't affect Mikkel much, because he's mentally strong.

      But I could see Jack Reiss was confusing him and throwing him off a bit, by admonishing him over and over again for nothing, while permitting Ward to foul as much as he wanted to.

      And without a doubt, the deliberate headbutt in the third round affected Kessler. You can see him blinking after that, trying to clear his vision, like McLennan did after the headbutt in the Benn fight.

      Under fair circumstances, without the headbutts and with an honest referee, Kessler would have been fighting much better and would have adjusted to Ward's style and won the fight by clear decision of late KO.
      Yeah. As I recall the fight, Kessler went back to his corner after that first flying headbutt, telling his trainer that he couldn't see. Did it affect the fight? Of course it did.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
        Yeah. As I recall the fight, Kessler went back to his corner after that first flying headbutt, telling his trainer that he couldn't see. Did it affect the fight? Of course it did.
        But that was about 6,7 rounds in, no? It just looked to me that Kessler wasn't quite in boxing shape yet and was out of his league.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
          I'm sure the headgames before the fight didn't affect Mikkel much, because he's mentally strong.

          But I could see Jack Reiss was confusing him and throwing him off a bit, by admonishing him over and over again for nothing, while permitting Ward to foul as much as he wanted to.

          And without a doubt, the deliberate headbutt in the third round affected Kessler. You can see him blinking after that, trying to clear his vision, like McLennan did after the headbutt in the Benn fight.

          Under fair circumstances, without the headbutts and with an honest referee, Kessler would have been fighting much better and would have adjusted to Ward's style and won the fight by clear decision of late KO.
          A pro fighter who has been fighting long before Ward even turned pro was confused by the ref telling him about stuff he was not doing. Then you go on to say seasoned pro let some headbutts take him completely off his game. But without all that Kessler would have adjusted to win a clear UD or late KO.

          With all that said please explain to me why Kessler didn't make ONE adjustment in that fight? Kessler kept doing the samething over and over again but expecting different results.

          Come on man its ok you like Kessler but the **** you saying is just ****ing ridiculous.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            But that was about 6,7 rounds in, no? It just looked to me that Kessler wasn't quite in boxing shape yet and was out of his league.
            I'm not sure when it was. It's not a fight I enjoy watching at all.

            But I seem to remember it was much earlier.

            I might watch the fight later tonight...

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            • #46
              Originally posted by tredh View Post
              A pro fighter who has been fighting long before Ward even turned pro was confused by the ref telling him about stuff he was not doing. Then you go on to say seasoned pro let some headbutts take him completely off his game. But without all that Kessler would have adjusted to win a clear UD or late KO.

              With all that said please explain to me why Kessler didn't make ONE adjustment in that fight? Kessler kept doing the samething over and over again but expecting different results.

              Come on man its ok you like Kessler but the **** you saying is just ****ing ridiculous.
              Yeah Kessler not trying some different path was a letdown. Maybe the fact that he had doublevision had something to do with it?

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              • #47
                People are making alot of excuses for kessler in this thread.

                Ward is a dirty fighter and he did land headbutts later in the fight but to me it was clear Kessler was out of his depth as soon as the fight started.

                Ward beat him from range and on the inside. Ward didnt rack up rounds by headbutting kessler,he scored rounds by landing better punches and basically controlling the tempo of every round.

                It was a shame that the fight ended because of headbutts but it was clear Kessler was a beaten man before they occurred.

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                • #48
                  Kessler is too timid. No way Froch will stand for any of that *****. Ward is gonna have to box him. No way hes roughing up Froch.

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                  • #49
                    When Froch loses (by getting hit with gloves), I'll probably be banned with all of the threads I have stored up to be bumped.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                      - there was a deliberate headbutt in the third that cut Kessler, and Mikkel wasn't the same after that.

                      - Goossen's shady referee Jack Reiss was admonishing Kessler during the fight and in his corner between rounds for nothing, to confuse him and throw him off. Kessler was fighting two men that night - and Reiss permitted Ward to foul as much as he wanted.

                      (the contract for the Super Six stated NEUTRAL referees would be used, but Goossen's California man Jack Reiss was in there).

                      - before the fight, there were a lot of head games from the Ward camp, for example Kessler's gloves being questioned, even though they knew there was nothing wrong with them
                      heres the 3rd round


                      show me where kessler gets headbutted in the 3rd you moron.......



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