I don't get all the "Floyd is past his prime" talk

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Floyd is definitely past his physical prime.

If you don't notice it then there's something the hell wrong with you.

What is rising incredibly though is his ring smarts? He's untouchable in that department.

So that's all it takes, ring IQ? Floyd somehow knows some ancient secrets created by the Greeks that enable him to beat everybody else? Floyd can walk into a fight with a broken leg and dislocated shoulder and pitch a shut out?

lol okay I'm trolling you a little bit, but I believe it's more than ring IQ, he's still gotta be closer to his prime than his decline.

[D4thincarnation]

So is it,

Floyd 2006 > Floyd 2011

Floyd 30 > Oscar 34 (SD)

Would then it be

Oscar 34 > Floyd 34?

[RL_GMA]

So that's all it takes, ring IQ? Floyd somehow knows some ancient secrets created by the Greeks that enable him to beat everybody else? Floyd can walk into a fight with a broken leg and dislocated shoulder and pitch a shut out?

lol okay I'm trolling you a little bit, but I believe it's more than ring IQ, he's still gotta be closer to his prime than his decline.

He's more economical with his punches than he used to be and he was quicker of his feet during his 135lbs days along with his power being in tact at the lower weights. He's still pretty quick, but I have seen a decline in his speed since his 135-140lb days. Whether or not one wants to constitute that as being past prime or not is on them, but I think we've overall seen the best Floyd Mayweather we'll ever see.

[_original_]

So is it,

Floyd 2006 > Floyd 2011

Floyd 30 > Oscar 34 (SD)

Would then it be

Oscar 34 > Floyd 34?

I don't even know what you're trying to prove with this. Boxing is not some math equation or cannot be broken down this easily. And the judge the scored the fight for Oscar must have been on crack, Floyd easily won a UD

[D4thincarnation]

I don't even know what you're trying to prove with this. Boxing is not some math equation or cannot be broken down this easily. And the judge the scored the fight for Oscar must have been on crack, Floyd easily won a UD

ree****yaluss and others were saying Floyd prime was around the Baldomir fight and Floyd is past his prime now.

The Oscar fight was a SD and Floyd, with only one swing round giving Floyd a victory.

If Floyd is a lesser fighter now than he was then is it not logical that Oscar he fought that night would beat him now.

[F l i c k e r]

lol, Floyd is past his prime. He isn't over the hill but he isn't prime either.

Floyd's prime wasn't fully lived up to and/or appreciated by Floyd himself. As when he was at his peak, Floyd decided to take a break. During that break, Floyd's prime was gone. He came back, wasn't the same on his feet, more flat footed. He is still incredible but he isn't going to Corrales someone or even Zab anyone, anymore.

[GrandpaBernard]

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[bMak]

Maybe it's because I haven't read through every page, but I haven't seen anyone mention the size and physical strength he's added with age. More specifically, upper-body strength.

Since his 2009 comeback, you can see Floyd's much more solid up top which was a factor in the way he was able to stand in front of and push Shane Mosley back. Even the smaller welterweight version of Floyd was able to fight off Ricky Hatton inside. The difference back then was he did it mainly with his legs and front hip whereas now he can outmuscle seemingly bigger, stronger fighters.

I think today's version of Floyd, while plainly not as fast, would handle 2006-2007 Baldomir and De La Hoya much easier.

[Imhotep]

Floyd is not as fast on foot then he use to be and is not as Fluid as he used to be but he`s still really fast and faster then most fighters.The last time Floyd was in his prime was the Baldomir fight.His speed was unbelievable in that fight and he was 29 at the time.

After that i noticed he started to fade.It was the Dela hoya fight i noticed he started to fade and Floyd was 30 at the time which is usually when a-lot of fighters start to fade little by little.


They say the first thing to fade is your legs and i noticed in the Dela Hoya fight that his footwork just was`nt what it used to be.

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Maybe it's because I haven't read through every page, but I haven't seen anyone mention the size and physical strength he's added with age. More specifically, upper-body strength.

Since his 2009 comeback, you can see Floyd's much more solid up top which was a factor in the way he was able to stand in front of and push Shane Mosley back. Even the smaller welterweight version of Floyd was able to fight off Ricky Hatton inside. The difference back then was he did it mainly with his legs and front hip whereas now he can outmuscle seemingly bigger, stronger fighters.

I think today's version of Floyd, while plainly not as fast, would handle 2006-2007 Baldomir and De La Hoya much easier.

that's a great point