Just rewatched Oscar vs Floyd.

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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by Hasha
    Oh we have ourselves an internet warrior. I don't even need to ask you those questions you asked me...judging by your earlier posts...the answer is quite obvious..

    Show me the time Mayweather challenged DLH...and he got to his position by making smart choices...when he felt he couldn't beat someone...he didn't want to fight them...(Cotto and Margarito).

    And what does DLH ducking Margarito have to do with anything?
    Bottom line is that if Mayweather could avoid Cotto, Margarito, I see no reason why he would want any of DLH in his prime..
    Not a warrior by any means. I just have a low tolerance for ****** idiots. Who want to throw their 2 cents around. As if they actually follow the sport closely enough. To give sound opinion.

    And, in the bold. Not a damn thing, that's my point. Just like Floyd avoiding Margarito(not Cotto you F'ing idiot) has nothing to do with him being levels above Oscar as skills go.

    Neither Cotto(who Mayweather didn't duck) nor Margarito(who Mayweather did duck) brought not only the money but everything else that goes with beating Oscar can bring you.

    Nobody -besides Winky- would turn down Oscar, You simpleton.

    Be real, how long have you been following the sport? It can't be too long if you don't know that Floyd been chasing Oscar for years man.

    Make a logical post or GTFO this forum.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Rip Chudd
      Please stop with the "Oscar stopped using his jab" myth. He threw more jabs in the last 6 rounds of the fight then he did in the first 6 rounds. The difference was he wasn't landing his jab in the second half of the fight.
      Exactly, yet people want to act as if the jab gave Floyd problems. Maybe for 3 rounds. But, Floyd took that **** away. Oscar was still throwing it but doing nothing with it.

      People don't even watch fights, they just go by the myth they hear.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Hasha
        Wow...I'm honestly amazed at how ****** you are...read my post again...did I say Oscar's prime lasted a year...or did I say he hit his prime (in other words, for a ****ing ****** like yourself) it started in 1999. Like I said...he was only 24...it was his first fight at Welterweight...He was well in his prime by the time he reached Tito...and had many fights at welter by then.

        And I never said prime is determined by age...it's determined by experience ****ing idiot. By 24 he hadn't faced the tougher challenges he was going to eventually.

        You mean to tell me his stamina was the same when he fought Floyd as when it was in his prime? Is that why he used to come out smoking in the 12th?
        If his prime started in 1999 when did it end?

        He hadn't faced enough tough challenges when he fought Whitaker? Did you not follow Oscar career? He was already a 3 division champ, had faced the likes of Leija, Molina, Hernandez, Ruelas, MAGO(who was borderline top 10 P4P level fighter at the time), a faded JCC. These type of opponents give you the experience you need. The way he beat most of them. Shows that he was in his prime when he faced Whitaker.

        You saying he wasn't in his prime because he was 24. That means you using age as the way to determining prime. Which is F'ing ******ed to do so.

        His stamina in his prime. Guns blazing in the 12 round? When did he come out guns blazing in the 12th? Against Quartey because all they did was posture and faint each other for 10 rounds prior? Or was it after "schooling" Tito did he come out guns blazing in the 12th? Especially after round 10 when his corners tells him "not another round like that Oscar". And, what does Oscar do? Gives them another round like that Or better yet was it against Molina were he kept looking at the time? Or was it against MAGO did he come out guns blazing getting tagged late in the fight? Yea OK guns blazing alright.

        I'm convinced you have no idea what you're talking. Why don't you try to actually watch his fights.

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        • Rip Chudd
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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Exactly, yet people want to act as if the jab gave Floyd problems. Maybe for 3 rounds. But, Floyd took that **** away. Oscar was still throwing it but doing nothing with it.

          People don't even watch fights, they just go by the myth they hear.
          If ever there were a truer statement on these boards I have yet to come across it. Green K.

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          • Shadows
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            #35
            Go get 'em Jro.

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            • Hasha
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              #36
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              Not a warrior by any means. I just have a low tolerance for ****** idiots. Who want to throw their 2 cents around. As if they actually follow the sport closely enough. To give sound opinion.

              And, in the bold. Not a damn thing, that's my point. Just like Floyd avoiding Margarito(not Cotto you F'ing idiot) has nothing to do with him being levels above Oscar as skills go.

              Neither Cotto(who Mayweather didn't duck) nor Margarito(who Mayweather did duck) brought not only the money but everything else that goes with beating Oscar can bring you.

              Nobody -besides Winky- would turn down Oscar, You simpleton.

              Be real, how long have you been following the sport? It can't be too long if you don't know that Floyd been chasing Oscar for years man.

              Make a logical post or GTFO this forum.
              Please show me before 2005, where Floyd said he was willing to challenge DLH...please...if you do...I'll take what I said about Floyd avoiding DLH back.

              And tell me Floyd, if he could duck a punching bag in Margarito, would not avoid a prime DLH, when he would have a field day with Margarito and box himself to a UD.

              And tell me why, when they asked Floyd if he would fight Cotto (when Cotto clearly said he would be willing to fight Mayweather) and everyone wanted the fight at the time ('07) did he not say anything about his willingness to fight Cotto....I'm waiting...

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              • Hasha
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                #37
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                Not a warrior by any means. I just have a low tolerance for ****** idiots. Who want to throw their 2 cents around. As if they actually follow the sport closely enough. To give sound opinion.

                And, in the bold. Not a damn thing, that's my point. Just like Floyd avoiding Margarito(not Cotto you F'ing idiot) has nothing to do with him being levels above Oscar as skills go.

                Neither Cotto(who Mayweather didn't duck) nor Margarito(who Mayweather did duck) brought not only the money but everything else that goes with beating Oscar can bring you.

                Nobody -besides Winky- would turn down Oscar, You simpleton.

                Be real, how long have you been following the sport? It can't be too long if you don't know that Floyd been chasing Oscar for years man.

                Make a logical post or GTFO this forum.
                Please show me before 2005, where Floyd said he was willing to challenge DLH...please...if you do...I'll take what I said about Floyd avoiding DLH back. But it's gota be DLH between 99-03.

                And tell me Floyd, if he could duck a punching bag in Margarito, would not avoid a prime DLH, when he would have a field day with Margarito and box himself to a UD.

                And tell me why, when they asked Floyd if he would fight Cotto (when Cotto clearly said he would be willing to fight Mayweather) and everyone wanted the fight at the time ('07) did he not say anything about his willingness to fight Cotto....I'm waiting...

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                • GrandpaBernard
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                  #38
                  R1. Floyd
                  R2. Oscar
                  R3. Floyd
                  R4. Oscar
                  R5. Floyd
                  R6. Oscar
                  R7. Floyd
                  R8. Floyd
                  R9. Floyd
                  R10. Floyd
                  R11. Floyd
                  R12. Floyd

                  117-111 Mayweather

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                  • Thread Stealer
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                    #39
                    Mayweather said he wanted De La Hoya way back in 2003 before his bout with Sosa. People laughed at the notion since DLH was an 154 lb. champ and Floyd an 135 lb. champ.

                    Neither Mayweather nor Cotto seemed to care much to fight each other back when the fight would've been best, in 2008, following Mayweather/Hatton and Cotto/Mosley. To the best of my knowledge, there was no serious negotiations between the two camps. I give Cotto more of a pass though since he fought Margarito, Clottey, and Pacquiao in the next 2 years.
                    Last edited by Thread Stealer; 08-05-2011, 02:12 AM.

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                    • Danny Gunz
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                      #40
                      I had that fight easy for Floyd but I remember watching the Hatton-Floyd fight live and having it pretty close... i havent rewatched it since though but i have a feeling i was very wrong.

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