Just rewatched Oscar vs Floyd.

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  • Hasha
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    #51
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    No because, again Oscar prime didn't start in 99.

    So what if he was filling up at WW. That has nothing to do with it. It took awhile for Floyd to fill up to WW doesn't mean he's in his prime right now.

    I gave you the fighters and top contenders that Oscar fought that would give him the experience. And, plenty of different styles too.

    Yes he came out guns blazing in the 12 against Quartey. But, that after both did nothing but posture and feint for 10 previous rounds. Is not like it was a barn burner where he showed great stamina. He got touched up late in the MAGO fight, ran for his life against Tito, and kept looking at the time against Molina to kill time. That's not somebody who has great stamina. Also went on to fade in the first Mosley fight.

    I mean for every lame example you give me about his stamina. I can give you one about his lack of stamina. Oscar stamina was average. Floyd has/had better stamina.
    You are truly an idiot. Different fighters reach their prime at different stages. Why are you even giving the example of Mayweather. Am I saying DLH primed in his welter years, therefore, everyone must reach their prime in their welter years?

    Funny how you mentioned nothing about Comacho. About Vargas (11th). And everyone knows about the first Mosley fight that DLH went in unprepared where he had his focus elsewhere (singing).

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    • jrosales13
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      #52
      Originally posted by Hasha
      A duck is a ****ing duck. Mayweather's stutter was in high gear when Margarito approached him. Don't give me that BS about high risk low reward when he was offered $8 Million fight him.

      And no. Cotto didn't contact Floyd. But at least he went on air to say he'd be willing to face Mayweather. While Mayweather never mentioned the reasons you're giving. He simply said, "I won't let the sport of boxing retire me, I'll retire from the sport." and "I've done what I had to do."
      No ****, smart one. So when I said "Floyd ducked Margarito plain and simple" WTF did you think I meant?

      Yes Cotto went on air and said that when he was already signing Gomez and scheduling his next fight with Mayorga. Yep, those words have a lot weight to them.

      I'm getting the feeling that this is not even about Oscar anymore. Because, it's pretty clear you didn't follow Oscar career. This has more to do with the hate you have for Floyd. Which is cool, I can dig it. I'm not a Floyd fan at all. But, he didn't duck Cotto, he did duck Marg. And, yes a duck is a duck and he ducked Marg. And, Oscar couldn't carry Floyd jockstrap.

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      • jrosales13
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        #53
        Originally posted by Hasha
        You are truly an idiot. Different fighters reach their prime at different stages. Why are you even giving the example of Mayweather. Am I saying DLH primed in his welter years, therefore, everyone must reach their prime in their welter years?

        Funny how you mentioned nothing about Comacho. About Vargas (11th). And everyone knows about the first Mosley fight that DLH went in unprepared where he had his focus elsewhere (singing).
        Of course different fighters reach their prime at different stages. And, age doesn't determine prime. Obviously you didn't get the Floyd example. Basically what I'm saying is that filling up in a weight-class has nothing to do with prime as you suggested in your previous post.

        I actually did mention something about your examples. I said for every lame example you give me about Oscar stamina. I can give you one about his lack of stamina.

        Reading comprehension not your strong suit?

        And, LOL Oh so now Oscar was unprepared for Mosley. That's what happen...I see

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        • sunny31
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          #54
          I thought it was a pretty close fight and only down the stretch did mayweather pull away, floyd swept most of the rounds after 6. I think I had it 8-4 mayweather. Oscar wasted a lot of punches, I thought mayweather caught him at the right time, he was still a very good fighter but had lost enough for mayweather to win. Good piece of timing.

          Both fighters in their prime at 147 is a very competitive fight...50/50 imo.

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          • Mr. Philadel
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            #55
            Originally posted by Boxing Tiger
            Casual fans who watched the fight that night probably had scored it for Oscar simply because of how ridiculously one side the commentating was that night in favor of Oscar. They probably got caught up in all the talk hype.
            EXACTLY!!!!....Floyd dusted him off 9 to 3 on my card...not close at all...Larry Merchant was awful that night...just str8 up awful!!!...Steward kept telling him that DLH was gonna tire....but no...he thought otherwise...smh...he then went on to say Oscar was EXPOSING Floyd........years later he wouldn't admit that B.Hop was exposing Pavlik....again, Steward was keeping it real...while Merchant was doing his job...HATING!!!!...smh
            Last edited by Mr. Philadel; 08-05-2011, 03:29 AM.

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            • JDezi4
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              #56
              That was the last fight I ever watched as a casual boxing fan. I didn't know how to score, so I just believe Harold Ledermans scorecards, as I always did at that point.

              I rewatched it about a year ago... I don't remember re-scoring it, but one thing I remember about it was that it wasn't that bad of a fight. Maybe it was becuz I've grown to admire skilled boxing (often times more than face first brawling... One of the reasons I like watching Floyd more than Manny. And Winky Wright is one of my faves) and that's probably what it was.... But I had fun the second time around.

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              • GoogleMe
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                #57
                I agree, a very one sided fight...

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                • KillerRightHook
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                  #58
                  The Early rounds went the ODLH, but he stopped using that jab. Mayweather won pretty comfortably.

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                  • Rip Chudd
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by KillerRightHook
                    The Early rounds went the ODLH, but he stopped using that jab. Mayweather won pretty comfortably.
                    Please shut up. Perfect example of what we were saying earlier, someone who prob never saw the fight just repeating what others have said. If Oscar stopped using the jab then something must be wrong with compubox and everyone who actually watched the fights eyes cause he threw more jabs the second half of the fight then he did in the first half. Read this part slowly cause you may learn something: THE JAB STOPPED WORKING!!! Floyd made an adjustment and took it away from Oscar. SMH
                    Last edited by Rip Chudd; 08-05-2011, 04:59 AM.

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                    • sunny31
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                      #60
                      He did not stop throwing his jab, I think that myth has been disproven.

                      What he did do was stop throwing his hands as much, and became less consistent with his workrate. He was taking longer rests and that is when floyd exploited him, Oscar was a sitting duck in the mid-late rounds.

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