Just rewatched Oscar vs Floyd.

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    #21
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    Inside the ring. I don't care about outside the ring, who was the bigger star, made more money, sold more PPV. All that is irrelevant to me.

    It's what can they do inside the ring.

    And, in between those ropes. Prime Oscar De la Hoya wouldn't be able to carry Floyd Mayweather Jr jockstrap.

    Yea, I said it. And, I mean it too
    Preaching to the choir man...I gave up hope of seeing Floyd out-boxed years ago, it actually made me a ***** according to the pinoy on here.

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      #22
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      Inside the ring. I don't care about outside the ring, who was the bigger star, made more money, sold more PPV. All that is irrelevant to me.

      It's what can they do inside the ring.

      And, in between those ropes. Prime Oscar De la Hoya wouldn't be able to carry Floyd Mayweather Jr jockstrap.

      Yea, I said it. And, I mean it too
      yeah you're right...a prime Oscar would never beat Floyd...cuz Floyd would never accept the challenge...Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito, and a prime Oscar takes those two to school.

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        #23
        Originally posted by check hook
        iv'e recently watched this fight about 3 times start to finish (within the last 2 or 3 months) in 1080 HD thanks to the good people at the Video Trading Block....and i can tell you it wasn't even close, and Floyd took virtually zero risk bar a few rounds. The commentary is utterly disgusting, even from Lampley who is usually the most balanced.
        HBO commentary has always been like that in Oscar fights.

        Always. They always been his biggest cheerleaders. Did the same damn thing in Oscar-Mosley 2, which was a close fight, but they made it seem like Oscar won it handily.

        And, till this day they're on Oscar ****. Giving GBP blind dates on their network.

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          #24
          Originally posted by RachelB
          Preaching to the choir man...I gave up hope of seeing Floyd out-boxed years ago, it actually made me a ***** according to the pinoy on here.
          I'm not even a Floyd fan. But, a washed up Whitaker made a prime Oscar look foolish at times. A prime Floyd vs a Prime Oscar? Really?

          People just hate Floyd or romanticize what Oscar is capable of.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Hasha
            yeah you're right...a prime Oscar would never beat Floyd...cuz Floyd would never accept the challenge...Floyd ducked Cotto and Margarito, and a prime Oscar takes those two to school.
            Are you fucking ******? No really, serious question. Are you fucking mentally ******ed you dumb fuck?

            Floyd been chasing Oscar for years...Who hasn't?

            Who the fuck, besides Winky, would turn down Oscar? You think Floyd is that Fucking dumb? You think he got to this position by making ****** decisions?

            And, no Floyd didn't duck Cotto, Yes he did duck Margarito. But, Oscar ducked Margarito too. And, what does that mean exactly? Not a fucking damn thing when you talking about Floyd-Oscar match up.

            So don't come over here with some ******ed shit.

            Your next reply better be full of common sense and logic. If you don't ever bother.
            Last edited by jrosales13; 08-05-2011, 02:02 AM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              I'm not even a Floyd fan. But, a washed up Whitaker made a prime Oscar look foolish at times. A prime Floyd vs a Prime Oscar? Really?

              People just hate Floyd or romanticize what Oscar is capable of.
              That was hardly a prime Oscar. Dude was only 24 then. It was his first fight at welter. DLH hit his prime roughly around 99 when he embarrassed tito yet got robbed. Secondly, Whitaker was a southpaw...do the math. A washed up Oscar's jab gave Floyd trouble...A prime DLH had more speed, power, stamina, desire, you name it. And a prime DLH came blazing in the 12th. He would be an absolute nightmare for Floyd, that is why Floyd would never fight him.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Hasha
                That was hardly a prime Oscar. Dude was only 24 then. It was his first fight at welter. DLH hit his prime roughly around 99 when he embarrassed tito yet got robbed. Secondly, Whitaker was a southpaw...do the math. A washed up Oscar's jab gave Floyd trouble...A prime DLH had more speed, power, stamina, desire, you name it. And a prime DLH came blazing in the 12th. He would be an absolute nightmare for Floyd, that is why Floyd would never fight him.
                So Oscar prime only lasted roughly a year?

                GTFOH...Seriously GTFO this forum. You're an idiot.

                That was a prime Oscar, he was already a 3 divisional title holder and had fought top rated fighters. You're a moron.

                Prime is not determine by age. But, how the fuck would you know? GTFOH.

                Stamina? Is that why his ass kept looking at the time against John John Molina? Because, of his great stamina?

                I'm convinced that you never seen a prime Oscar.

                His jab gave Floyd trouble? Oh for 3 rounds... Big whoop.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Are you fucking ******? No really, serious question. Are you fucking mentally ******ed you dumb fuck?

                  Floyd been chasing Oscar for years...Who hasn't?

                  Who the fuck, besides Winky, would turn down Oscar? You think Floyd is that Fucking dumb? You think he got to this position by making ****** decisions?

                  And, no Floyd didn't duck Cotto, Yes he did duck Margarito. But, Oscar ducked Margarito too. And, what does that mean exactly? Not a fucking damn thing when you talking about Floyd-Oscar match up.

                  So don't come over here with some ******ed shit.

                  Your next reply better be full of common sense and logic. If you not don't ever bother.
                  Oh we have ourselves an internet warrior. I don't even need to ask you those questions you asked me...judging by your earlier posts...the answer is quite obvious..

                  Show me the time Mayweather challenged DLH...and he got to his position by making smart choices...when he felt he couldn't beat someone...he didn't want to fight them...(Cotto and Margarito).

                  And what does DLH ducking Margarito have to do with anything? Bottom line is that if Mayweather could avoid Cotto, Margarito, I see no reason why he would want any of DLH in his prime..

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    So Oscar prime only lasted roughly a year?

                    GTFOH...Seriously GTFO this forum. You're an idiot.

                    That was a prime Oscar, he was already a 3 divisional title holder and had fought top rated fighters. You're a moron.

                    Prime is not determine by age. But, how the fuck would you know? GTFOH.

                    Stamina? Is that why his ass kept looking at the time against John John Molina? Because, of his great stamina?

                    I'm convinced that you never seen a prime Oscar.

                    His jab gave Floyd trouble? Oh for 3 rounds... Big whoop.
                    Wow...I'm honestly amazed at how ****** you are...read my post again...did I say Oscar's prime lasted a year...or did I say he hit his prime (in other words, for a ****ing ****** like yourself) it started in 1999. Like I said...he was only 24...it was his first fight at Welterweight...He was well in his prime by the time he reached Tito...and had many fights at welter by then.

                    And I never said prime is determined by age...it's determined by experience ****ing idiot. By 24 he hadn't faced the tougher challenges he was going to eventually to.

                    You mean to tell me his stamina was the same when he fought Floyd as when he was in his prime? Is that why he used to come out smoking in the 12th?
                    Last edited by Hasha; 08-05-2011, 01:56 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by William Blake
                      Oscar looked reasonably decent in the early rounds. As the fight moved into the middle rounds Oscar stopped using his jab. Once that happened, he had nothing to set up the left hook and gone was his best chance at winning. As well, Oscar always tires toward the later rounds of the fight. Floyd's movement and the right hand between Oscar's gloves was simply too much.
                      Please stop with the "Oscar stopped using his jab" myth. He threw more jabs in the last 6 rounds of the fight then he did in the first 6 rounds. The difference was he wasn't landing his jab in the second half of the fight.

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