If Ali Was So Hard To Hit and So Fast...Why is He Punch Drunk as Hell

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  • esl_4_u
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    #21
    These guys just don't know boxing or any basic level of sport science. Most of them never even played an organized sport outside of riding the bench in High school. Many of the smart guys know that every athlete is different and responds differently to injuries. But one that is debatable for sane intelligent few is that their records don't compare. 3 years into Ali's career he challenged for the title. 4 years into Vitali's career he was still in the pop-tart charts...quit on his stool losing the WBO...then inherited the WBA by fighting Orlin Norris. 2 years into Wlad's career he fought Ross Purity and lost then went back into the pop-tart charts for 2 years and then won the WBO against Chris Byrd.

    A different era of heavyweight fighting. To be Heavyweight Champ in Ali's time was just as good as being a President or a King. Now Heavyweights don't bring in the numbers like welters, jr. welters, middle, and super middle (Roy Jones 90's era)...even lightweight for that matter.

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    • tennis-legend
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      #22
      there was no cheating they changed the gloves in about 10 seconds

      not that it would have mattered- now i know you're full of ****

      cooper had a great left hook- he caught ali clean with it

      ali still got up and walked to his corner

      cooper couldn't capitalise and lost fair and square

      sanders genuinely did KTFO out of wlad- nate tubbs ring a bell?

      he beat sanders

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      • Die Antwoord
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        Originally posted by tennis-legend
        there was no cheating they changed the gloves in about 10 seconds

        not that it would have mattered- now i know you're full of ****

        cooper had a great left hook- he caught ali clean with it

        ali still got up and walked to his corner

        cooper couldn't capitalise and lost fair and square

        sanders genuinely did KTFO out of wlad- nate tubbs ring a bell?

        he beat sanders

        Haha wait, you do know smelling salts were banned in british boxing in the 1920's right...Ali clearly used smelling salts, thats cheating. owned, out of here troll.

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        • Die Antwoord
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          #24
          Originally posted by tennis-legend
          there was no cheating they changed the gloves in about 10 seconds

          not that it would have mattered- now i know you're full of ****

          cooper had a great left hook- he caught ali clean with it

          ali still got up and walked to his corner

          cooper couldn't capitalise and lost fair and square

          sanders genuinely did KTFO out of wlad- nate tubbs ring a bell?

          he beat sanders
          Wait, and Ali got up, staggered to his corner and then stood up, unconcious and tried to fight Angelo Dundee, the glove then was further ripped...have you ever boxed? the reason you can fight with a ripped glove is that it causes cuts...didnt cooper lose on cuts...another incident of cheating since Dundee admits he knew it was ripped and ripped it further...another instance of cheating to beat a 185 pounder, Wlad stood up and was walking to his corner the same was in the Brewster fight and the fight was called by the way, if he had extra time, smelling salts etc...he easily wins that fight.

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          • fitefanSHO
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            #25
            Because in the ring, he was willing to sacrifice his body and mind for the HONOR & GLORY of being remembered as the greatest heavyweight champion of all time, and one of the greatest fighters who ever lived. Because he was the exact opposite of Victor Ortiz in the Maidana fight, and because Ali was willing to die in the ring. Ali knows that his body is only a temporary vessel and he was more than willing to run that race car into the red, and beyond. Because he was willing to pay the higher price for true greatness. That's why...
            Last edited by fitefanSHO; 08-03-2011, 08:28 AM.

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            • Die Antwoord
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              #26
              Originally posted by esl_4_u
              These guys just don't know boxing or any basic level of sport science. Most of them never even played an organized sport outside of riding the bench in High school. Many of the smart guys know that every athlete is different and responds differently to injuries. But one that is debatable for sane intelligent few is that their records don't compare. 3 years into Ali's career he challenged for the title. 4 years into Vitali's career he was still in the pop-tart charts...quit on his stool losing the WBO...then inherited the WBA by fighting Orlin Norris. 2 years into Wlad's career he fought Ross Purity and lost then went back into the pop-tart charts for 2 years and then won the WBO against Chris Byrd.

              A different era of heavyweight fighting. To be Heavyweight Champ in Ali's time was just as good as being a President or a King. Now Heavyweights don't bring in the numbers like welters, jr. welters, middle, and super middle (Roy Jones 90's era)...even lightweight for that matter.

              Wait, questioning my athleticism? Post a picture of yourself dude. Id love to see it. I have one of me up, so post one of you. And what are you talking about, Wlad and Vitali are kings, they make more money than Ali ever did, they get more fans in the stands than Ali ever did, they have more worldwide paying viewers than Ali ever did, they have a bigger market share of the countries they fight in than Ali ever did. Youre a joke. Wlad got paid 30% of Ali's entire net worth for his last fight...hilarious...and Ali has had 30 years of interest and huge growth to allow his money grow and its not like he can spend it on anything.

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              • Die Antwoord
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                #27
                Originally posted by fitefanSHO
                Because in the ring, he was willing to sacrifice his body and mind for the HONOR & GLORY of being remembered as the greatest heavyweight champion of all time, and one of the greatest fighters who ever lived. Because he was the exact opposite of Victor Ortiz in the Maidana fight, and because Ali was willing to die in the ring. Ali knows that his body is only a temporary vessel and he was more than willing to run that race car into the red, and beyond. Because he was willing to pay the higher price for true greatness. That's why...
                Against Alfredy Evangelista and Leon spinks right?

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                • tennis-legend
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                  #28
                  die antwoord stop talking out of your ass

                  ali had the gloves changed not chopped up

                  2. copper could get cut from opening a stamp- he blamed his "aryan" bone structure- everyone else blamed his beedy little eyes

                  do some ****ing research, cooper got cut on his eyes crossing the stret

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                  • fitefanSHO
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by tennis-legend
                    die antwoord stop talking out of your ass
                    Yes, please do.

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                    • BattlingNelson
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                      #30
                      Ali was indeed hard to hit. In his first reign that is.

                      After his exile he lost some of his speed and that showed in him taking an awful lot of punches in the ring.

                      Furthermore Ali worked almost exclusively on defense in sparring so you can bet that a lot of the damage happened there.

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