Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

[The_Expert]

Your such a troll.

Anyways, not directed to you becaue your a troll, but the only thing you can go off of is who they all beat. Your going purely off of size which is ridiculous. There are bigger guys out their then wlad.

It's like saying David Lemiuex was the next tyson. because he knocked out everyone he faced in impressive fashion. How do we know anyone Wlad has faced is even remotely close to the level of guys in the 70's? In fact most if not all experts would say the guys of the 70's are superior... So of course Wlad looks impressive against nobodies, because he hasn't beat anyone who is even close to being a HOF'er. Not only that but he is scared to get hit..

What would Wlad do as he got consistently hit by Ali? He hates getting hit. And trust me he would get hit all night. Wlad has the 1-2. He struggles to counter, and can barely throw a hook. The guy has far less skill then some give him credit for.

How do we know the opponents Ali faced were remotely close to the level of todays HW's?

Btw did you predict David Haye beating Wlad?

[cupocity303]

How do we know anyone Wlad has faced is even remotely close to the level of guys in the 70's? In fact most if not all experts would say the guys of the 70's are superior

Point me to these experts.

Just let it not be anybody as old or generational biased as this guy:

[The_Expert]

You guys do know that Ali was a human being right?

The way you guys act its like Ali was God himself

[Sadistic]

How do we know the opponents Ali faced were remotely close to the level of todays HW's?

Btw did you predict David Haye beating Wlad?

Yes, Genesis said Haye would "brutally KO" and "destroy" Wlad.

He's just another ******ed butthurt Klitschko hater.

[cupocity303]

How do we know the opponents Ali faced were remotely close to the level of todays HW's?

Btw did you predict David Haye beating Wlad?

It's a strawman argument.

I've heard guys get caught up in endless debate, saying that Michael Jordan was in a weak NBA era to discredit his accomplishments.

Then the other guy would use the same tactic, pointing to a Kobe not performing well without a Shaq, etc,. etc.

That's no way to debate this.

[AntonTheMeh]

Muhammad Ali is Muhammad Ali. not david haye. not sam peter. not eddie chambers.

and we're basing what we know of him, on what we've seen. god knows how much better he could have gotten had he not lost 3 years off of his prime.

[The_Expert]

Muhammad Ali is Muhammad Ali. not david haye. not sam peter. not eddie chambers.

and we're basing what we know of him, on what we've seen. god knows how much better he could have gotten had he not lost 3 years off of his prime.

And Wladimir Klitschko is Wladimir Klitschko. Not sonny liston. not joe frazier. not geroge foreman

You see what I did there?

[The_Expert]

Yes, Genesis said Haye would "brutally KO" and "destroy" Wlad.

He's just another ******ed butthurt Klitschko hater.

I actually picked Haye to beat Wladimir to.

Now I give credit to Wlad for beating Haye

[cupocity303]

no. because you think that's all it takes. there's more to boxing than that, and Ali had shown us the "more than that" time and again. I've yet to see that from wlad.

He doesn't need "more than that".

I'll go right ahead and admit that Ali has more heart than Wlad. If it came down to who can take more punishment and keep fighting, Ali wins.

But that's unnecessary. Wlad has perfected his style. In many ways it's one-dimensional but it's the most effective One-Dimensional style of All-Times.

If you can keep doing the same thing, fight after fight, winning 90+ percent of the rounds, and keep handing out TKO losses, you've got something, despite people trying to discredit the opposition.

It's simple, whoever can get through that Dimension, beats Wlad. The trick is getting through it, now that he has ironed out some of his earlier flaws of wasting too much energy with unnecessary movement.

People wanna talk about Prime Ali, Prime Tyson, Prime this and that. How about a Prime Wlad Klitschko. Whenever these guys losses are brought up, it's because they weren't at their best. How about, Wlad wasn't at his best when he ran out of steam in two of his three losses.

[The_Expert]

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