Who has Muhammad Ali beating that makes people think he stand a chance against WK

[The_Expert]

You are right about sports science being on a different level--that is impossible to dispute. We've seen that in every sport when we compare past greats to present greats. The physiques of the guys in sports now are on a different level, and I think that says a lot. The problem with this argument is that it almost exclusively applies to Wlad! All the other heavyweights are in terrible condition relatively speaking. Since that is his primary opponent base, how is it that he has fought equivalent opposition, or am I over estimating the conditioning of old school boxers?

You guys might be right about Ali, but what about Ali's career makes you guys think he wasn't fighting stiff competition? What is it about Foreman, Liston, and the others that makes them on the sam level as the Haye's and what not?

most of Wlads opponents were in great condition. Ali fought allot of fat bums himself

[The_Expert]

Did I say reach, or did I say range. Because Wlad has range, he keeps his opponents at bay with his jab and straight right.

Did Sony Liston use his reach to his maximum potential or did he throw punches the equivalent of Ricky Hatton?

Reach has nothing to do with it if you don't or can't use it, just ask Paul Williams.

also reach is not the same as arm length.

If you have a wide chest and broad shoulders your reach might be long even though you have short arms.

[The_Expert]

No one has given me a name of a fighter that Ali has beaten that resembles Wlad style and physic

[Sadistic]

Ali never fought anyone like Wlad.

That rope a dope bullshit won't work against Wlad.

Feather fisted Ali can't stop Wlad.

You can't outbox Wlad, it's impossible.

Stylistically, Wlad is a nightmare matchup for Ali.

Wlad by UD or late KO.

Just look at that inferior weakling Ali.

Either Klitschko destroys Ali.

Either Klitschko beats any HW from any era.

[forget]

Stop following boxing then. Go live in your fantasy land were boxers from your era were super humans for some reason.

Perfect example of a grumpy old man

I'm not that old but to you I imagine I am. What are you about 15?

Watch boxing for awhile and comeback later, I'll still be here.

[The_Expert]

Also Wlad is much smarter than Ali. So I dont see Ali outsmarting Wlad.

Ali had a low IQ thats why he didnt need to go to the army

[Battle*Hardened]

most of Wlads opponents were in great condition. Ali fought allot of fat bums himself

Your such a troll.

Anyways, not directed to you becaue your a troll, but the only thing you can go off of is who they all beat. Your going purely off of size which is ridiculous. There are bigger guys out their then wlad.

It's like saying David Lemiuex was the next tyson. because he knocked out everyone he faced in impressive fashion. How do we know anyone Wlad has faced is even remotely close to the level of guys in the 70's? In fact most if not all experts would say the guys of the 70's are superior... So of course Wlad looks impressive against nobodies, because he hasn't beat anyone who is even close to being a HOF'er. Not only that but he is scared to get hit..

What would Wlad do as he got consistently hit by Ali? He hates getting hit. And trust me he would get hit all night. Wlad has the 1-2. He struggles to counter, and can barely throw a hook. The guy has far less skill then some give him credit for.

[The_Expert]

I'm not that old but to you I imagine I am. What are you about 15?

Watch boxing for awhile and comeback later, I'll still be here.

I watch boxing and I box myself.

I dont live in a fantasy world like you

[cupocity303]

No one has given me a name of a fighter that Ali has beaten that resembles Wlad style and physic

You're right.

These guys throw a hissy fit tantrum for me even slightly comparing Haye to Ali, to make a point.

Yet when it comes down to it, Wlad has fought opponents who at least somewhat resemble Ali in style and size. And the same cannot be said for Ali.

[AntonTheMeh]

because im saying a 6 foot 6 245 pounds HW with a 56-3 (49 kos)
can beat a 6 foot 3 210 pounds HW with a 56-5(37 kos) ?

no. because you think that's all it takes. there's more to boxing than that, and Ali had shown us the "more than that" time and again. I've yet to see that from wlad.