Cotto has ducked everyone at 154.

[ablindwatchmakr]

I have come to the conclusion that boxing like politics, is all about bias and bull sht.

You have clowns spinning the BS in a way that helps them feel better about a guy like Floyd who cheapened the sport in the past decade. How did a btch sneak into a man's sport with a shoulder roll and 4 retirement parties?

In what universe does a fighter who blatantly denies the fights the boxing public is screaming for get a pass? I guess when you have enough hood**** who are impressed by dollar bills flying off a stage, they need a hero too.

"Floyd good shoo...Floyd ain't scare of no Luis Cotto shoo...Floyd the best...Floyd gunna buy me a car"

That's funny, since I never said Floyd was my favorite fighter or anything of the sort. I went for Marquez when he fought Floyd even though I knew he wouldn't win. I like Floyd but I don't feel the need to protect him from all criticism. It's funny how I have pretty much agreed to 99% of the charges you guys have leveled at Floyd, but when I try to suggest that he isn't the only one who has done it, you guys start freaking out. Has Floyd cherry picked more than Cotto? Yes. Does that make you happy? Whatever. It doesn't change my argument at all.

[LaMigra]

That's funny, since I never said Floyd was my favorite fighter or anything of the sort. I went for Marquez when he fought Floyd even though I knew he wouldn't win. I like Floyd but I don't feel the need to protect him from all criticism. It's funny how I have pretty much agreed to 99% of the charges you guys have leveled at Floyd, but when I try to suggest that he isn't the only one who has done it, you guys start freaking out. Has Floyd cherry picked more than Cotto? Yes. Does that make you happy? Whatever. It doesn't change my argument at all.

Texas in the house... I should have known.


"War Margarito!"

[LaMigra]

You're the idiot jackass. Learn to be civil and stop getting butt hurt about ****** ****. I never said Floyd didn't duck. All I've said is that Cotto isn't exactly fighting the best, and so his fans need to stop trying to act like he is. This has already been thoroughly covered. If you had bothered to read the whole thread you might not have said some of the ****** **** you have. The whole reason this thread exists is to counter the insane glory you guys are showering on Cotto. There were no less than 4 threads yesterday about how much of an insane badass Cotto was. Btw, what was Mayorga? And why are you bringing Floyd into this so much? Is that your real problem?

So.... WHO is fighting the best in your humble opinion?

Cotto fought THE BEST in Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs... He just got to 154lbs and will be fighting Margarito in December plaster-free.

How many fights should Cotto have had at 54? Who did he skip over? Who is so scary at 54 other than 36 year old Martinez the overnight KO artist?

You make NO sense. Just admit that you hate Cotto. This cannot be about Cotto not fighting the best. 154 is a sh it division to begin with.

Failure is in your immediate future.

And I don't get "butthurt" That is a little kid term. It has no effect.

[ablindwatchmakr]

Texas in the house... I should have known.


"War Margarito!"

What's wrong with Texas? Now you don't like Texas? Damn I was screwed from the start, lol.

[LaMigra]

What's wrong with Texas? Now you don't like Texas? Damn I was screwed from the start, lol.

Nah man... It's the epicenter. Until you move to Kansas, your bias will always be unveiled.

[ablindwatchmakr]

So.... WHO is fighting the best in your humble opinion?

Cotto fought THE BEST in Manny Pacquiao at 147lbs... He just got to 154lbs and will be fighting Margarito in December plaster-free.

How many fights should Cotto have had at 54? Who did he skip over? Who is so scary at 54 other than 36 year old Martinez the overnight KO artist?

You make NO sense. Just admit that you hate Cotto. This cannot be about Cotto not fighting the best. 154 is a sh it division to begin with.

Failure is in your immediate future.

And I don't get "butthurt" That is a little kid term. It has no effect.

Read the full thread. I actually like Cotto a lot and desperately wanted him to defeat Pac. Opponents have already been mentioned. Who is fighting the best? Khan is fighting the best. Devon alexander is fighting the best (losing). The super six guys are fighting the best. Brandon Rios is fighting the best.

Apparently you are a serious fan of Cotto and not hearing anything I'm saying. Since I've started this thread I've conceded several things I jumped the gun on. Again, you obviously didn't read it; however, I will not concede that Cotto is fighting the best fights he can. It's just not true. I'm not talking **** about Cotto to elevate other fighters, I'm simply bringing him back down to earth. Floyd and Pac have fought some of the ****tiest opposition in the sport lately, no question about it; But Cotto isn't exactly a beacon of light.

[jri9d0]

I don't think Floyd really cares about being the best at 147. LMAO at Pac taking risks at 147 against who? Clottey, De la Hoya, Mosley, JMM? Lol the only real opponent that Manny has faced at 147 was a damaged Cotto. Fast forward to the here and now, Margarito beat Cotto when he was the champ, then Mosley owned Margarito when he was the champ, then Floyd dominated Mosley when he was the champ. People are quick to forget that Shane was the # 1 ranked WW in the world when Floyd fought him. Now Floyd is fighting WBC WW champion Victor Ortiz who is a top 3 ranked WW. Floyd also beat lineal WW champion Baldomir some years ago. Who Floyd didn't fight 3 or 4 years ago has nothing to do with what's going on today. It's a simple concept that most people here don't seem to understand. A solid argument can be made that Floyd is the best at 147.

Damaged or not Cotto only had ONE loss before facing Pac which still made the fight legit despite the 2 pound disparity that so many griped about.


None of what you stated in your post still doesn’t erase the fact that Cotto, Margarito, Shane and Pac all fought each other while Floyd took an 18 month hiatus and b1tching and moaning why the American mainstream wrote him off as P4P # 1.

Floyd decided to fight Shane AFTER he got punked in his post fight interview with Kellerman after the JMM fight. Couple that with Shane’s subpar performance against the Latin Fake thus making Mosley more vulnerable to victory for Floyd.

As for who Floyd “didn’t fight 3 or 4 years ago” has EVERYTHING to do with what he’s doing today because unlike the aforementioned welters all of which who went all or nothing with each other Floyd has taken the safe route to the top by either A. choosing lesser opponents (JMM) or B. Taking long layoffs hoping the welter elite kill each other off. Thus, this takes an ample toll on his public appeal and labels Floyd one who “Dodged” the greater challenges.

[ablindwatchmakr]

Nah man... It's the epicenter. Until you move to Kansas, your bias will always be unveiled.

In the future I will keep in mind how serious some of you guys are about protecting your favorite fighters. I'm supposed to be the guy that is protecting these other fighters, yet I have done nothing but criticize them for the most part. I can't get anything from you but insults, and no real implicit acknowledgement that you have even read the thread.

Texas the epicenter of Cotto hate? What? Or are you making a political reference?

[jri9d0]

In the future I will keep in mind how serious some of you guys are about protecting your favorite fighters. I'm supposed to be the guy that is protecting these other fighters, yet I have done nothing but criticize them for the most part. I can't get anything from you but insults, and no real implicit acknowledgement that you have even read the thread.

Texas the epicenter of Cotto hate? What? Or are you making a political reference?

No offense but Texas is the home of crooked judges just ask Paulie Malignaggi.

[ablindwatchmakr]

No offense but Texas is the home of crooked judges just ask Paulie Malignaggi.

Oh I agree. Texas shouldn't be allowed to sanction fights. I've seen several in recent years that were robberies.

Texas has never been known for having an efficient, well organized government. Half of our citizens refuse to pay taxes!