Jim Dwyer is an idiot...period...

[Las Vegas,]

LOL, I think you are the one that needs to tell me the 5 reasons why they think that they'll beat Wlad because a crazy man has to defend his theories, a sane man doesn't. I am the sane one here in case you haven't noticed.

But, it is kind of fun to poke holes in your fantasy world so I'll give you reasons (I can give you a lot more than five, but here goes):

For Tarver:

42 years old
never a HW
had one HW fight against a fight journeyman, couldn't hurt him
KO% 57, against LHW mostly, so not a great puncher
got outboxed by Dawson easily, Hopkins, Jones, Jhonson, and some guy named Eric Harding, so not the best boxer either
doesn't have a longer reach, height, more power, or size on Wlad, not quicker than Wlad, doesn't have as much skill as Wlad

Who has he beaten that even comes close to Wlad? Even in size dimentions, let's start with that, forget about record, just size. He had trouble with a fat journeyman his first and only fight at HW, a HW that's kind of smallish.


Toney?

Don't make me laugh....

Fat as hell, slow as hell, short as hell, short arms, power is what at the 50% mark, has been caught with steroids twice (that's the only way he can compete at HW, is by taking the juice, I bet he is on the juice now and has been since moving to CW). The only positive for him is a good chin but Wlad will put him in a comma with the way Toney fought Peter, which is the only way he knows how to fight.


Now you tell me why you think they will beat Wlad, I want to get a good laugh...

I'm still waiting for the 5 good reasons. Why YOU think Wladimir would beat both of them.

[Las Vegas,]

If he did, you would complain that he is beating up on old, fat, washed-up, middle weights, instead Wlad fights undefeated world champs in their prime.

Toney and Tarver are FAR from being washed up. Both of them are in there primes.

[E-Thug]

Toney and Tarver are FAR from being washed up. Both of them are in there primes.

Na come on KLTP, I enjoy reading your posts but it's obvious that Wladimir will beat both Tarver and Toney, and I'm not even a fully-fledged Klit-licker, I like Wlad but his fans can be ******ed

[WladIsTheChamp]

Toney and Tarver are FAR from being washed up. Both of them are in there primes.

LOL now I know you are crazy....

So when Toney was getting out-boxed by Peter or getting an SD over Batchedler while on steroids, he wasn't in his prime right? He is just coming into his prime now... his best moments are still to come right? LOL... I can't wait for 60 year old Shamrock to hump him to death while Toney is begging for mercy...

Tarver? Well you are right, no one can strive higher than beating Danny Green, a CW phenow the likes of which the world has never seen (never mind that he most at SMW most of his career). Tarver better stick to B level CWs and LHWs cause even a guy like Arreola will kill him.

Let me know when either one beats a legit HW in the top 20, until then keep dreaming. That's the only way you can still not slit your wrists seeing the K bros ruling the HW division, is by living in a fantasy world where you keep telling yourself "Tarver, Hopkins, and Toney can all beat the Klitschkos, the Klitschkos are just scared of them..."

[Konstantin]

Toney and Tarver are FAR from being washed up. Both of them are in there primes.

How would you know? Wladimir hasn't fought anyone that made me think "Oh man he can beat Toney, and Tarver!" the only one close was a way past his prime Rahman. Until Wlad fights someone like Toney, or Tarver we'll never know. I don't consider his win over the great Samuel Peter to prove anything at all really.

I think Toney and Tarver would beat most of the HWs on Wlad's resume.

Am I still an idiot?

Yes, most certainly an idiot.

[Spray_resistant]

Tarver and Toney would beat Wladimir Klitschko. Why? Wladimir hasn't fought anyone like them.

Tell me 5 reasons why Wladimir is not only better than Tarver and Toney but would beat them.

Listen guy, Tarver looked pretty bad in his only HW fight against Aguillera and Toney well has last meaningful HW fight was a gift against Fres Oquendo. Its very silly to think either would have a chance against Wlad based on that alone.

[WladIsTheChamp]

I think I rest my case... Dwyer is an idiot, the only guy defending Dwyer is probably Dwyer himself. I cannot think of two people in the world that think that Hopkins, Toney, and Tarver can beat Wlad. I think all but one poster on this thread agree.

[Horvo]

Bigger problem I have with him is that he usually doesn't admit he was wrong with his picks no matter how the fight turns out. He said McCloskey would have come back to beat Khan. He said PW beat Lara.

He also cites the Pac-Hatton fight as an example of how to beat Pac. He's just like any fanboy. The more he likes or dislikes a fighter, the less objective he is.

[ma51f]

Dwyer is a moron and a complete fool. I wouldnt pay much attention to him, he knows nothing about boxing and gets 95% of his predictions wrong

[uoykcuf]

Tarver needs to stay the hell away from the heavyweight division. A fat cab-driver could walk through his punches and beat him. He should just fight at cruiser-weight.