Does Arturo Gatti belong in the IBHOF?

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  • Devils Advocate
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    #31
    Originally posted by fitefanSHO
    If you looks at his skill level, titles won, and biggest wins maybe the answer is no, but if you look at HOW he fought and consider how many epic wars, fights of the year etc he was in, maybe you say yes.

    Personally, I think Gatti belongs in the IBHOF.
    I still can't believe he's gone, this guy truely lived life outside the ring as he did inside. He deserves to be in the HOF and he also deserves a movie, question is who should play Gatti

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    • JOM'S
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      #32
      if stallone can be there, I dont see any reason why gatti can not...maybe not first ballot, but he sure will be inducted sooner or later ...

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      • Las Vegas,
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        #33
        Without question. What Gatti gave us was something special. Fighters like him don't come around often.

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        • VERILY
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          #34
          Originally posted by StopBlocking
          A lot of people are overeacting because he is dead. RIP
          This isn't true at all. Gatti was a Legend in his lifetime - he didn't need to die to get that aura, he already had it.

          Gatti appreciation, for the vast part, is not a dead rockstar cult. I've noticed that many of the posters who've shown the most posthumous esteem for Gatti are the same ones who spoke/typed so reverently of him when he was still alive.


          Thing is, Arturo Gattis don't come along very often.

          So, if we're make-believing for a moment that all who have already gained entry to the Hall have each been subject to the same impartial critical-analytical examination of their records, skillsets and accomplishments and passed with flying colours, allowing a guy of Gatti's transcendent caliber into the Hall wouldn't have to mean opening the floodgates to every Tom, **** or Harry who came down the pike.


          Though, thinking about it, the way I feel about Halls of Fame in general, it'd be more of a compliment IMO to be excluded and for your Legend to be left to stand by its own self, existing purely for what is, for those who knew and know, defined in the sometimes reverently hushed, sometimes excitedly awed, but always sentimental reminiscenses through which it traverses the generations.





          Originally posted by Devils Advocate
          I still can't believe he's gone, this guy truely lived life outside the ring as he did inside. He deserves to be in the HOF and he also deserves a movie, question is who should play Gatti
          The last thing Gatti deserves is to be made the latest subject of yet another useless, crappy biopic.

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          • StopBlocking
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            #35
            Originally posted by [Flomo]KLTP
            Without question. What Gatti gave us was something special. Fighters like him don't come around often.
            Again what did he "give us"? There are a lot of fighters who were involved in "wars" or great fights.

            Originally posted by Adam Konitz
            This isn't true at all. Gatti was a Legend in his lifetime - he didn't need to die to get that aura, he already had it.

            Gatti appreciation, for the vast part, is not a dead rockstar cult. I've noticed that many of the posters who've shown the most posthumous esteem for Gatti are the same ones who spoke/typed so reverently of him when he was still alive.


            Thing is, Arturo Gattis don't come along very often.

            So, if we're make-believing for a moment that all who have already gained entry to the Hall have each been subject to the same impartial critical-analytical examination of their records, skillsets and accomplishments and passed with flying colours, allowing a guy of Gatti's transcendent caliber into the Hall wouldn't have to mean opening the floodgates to every Tom, **** or Harry who came down the pike.


            Though, thinking about it, the way I feel about Halls of Fame in general, it'd be more of a compliment IMO to be excluded and for your Legend to be left to stand by its own self, existing purely for what is, for those who knew and know, defined in the sometimes reverently hushed, sometimes excitedly awed, but always sentimental reminiscenses through which it traverses the generations.






            The last thing Gatti deserves is to be made the latest subject of yet another useless, crappy biopic.
            Arturo Gatti had average skills so please stop making him out to be some fighter that shows up once in a lifetime. You cannot reward a guy for failing to protect himself in the ring for the entirety of his career especially in today's age where safety in sports is most important.

            Gatti had heart, but so does 98% of the men who step in the ring. Whenever someone passes people seem to make them much greater than they were when alive (2pac, Edwin Valero, many others).

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            • RubenSonny
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              #36
              The IBHOF is little more than a joke, and it will degrade itself even further if Arturo Gatti gets in.

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              • RL_GMA
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                #37
                Well, the overall point of the Hall of Fame is to honor those who not only were incredibly skilled, but also put on a great show and captured the imagination of the public throughout their career. I have no doubt in time Gatti will have his place in the HOF. The Gatti vs Ward trilogy is a very memorable stamp in the last 20 years of Boxing.

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                • fitefanSHO
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Devils Advocate
                  I still can't believe he's gone, this guy truely lived life outside the ring as he did inside. He deserves to be in the HOF and he also deserves a movie, question is who should play Gatti
                  Have heard there will a sequel to The Fighter focusing on the Trilogy.

                  I too wonder who will play Gatti.

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                  • VERILY
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by StopBlocking
                    Arturo Gatti had average skills so please stop making him out to be some fighter that shows up once in a lifetime.
                    Did I make any claim for Greatness on behalf of Gatti's skills? Regardless, he was the kind of fighter of which you will see few like him in a lifetime. Whether you even like him or not, get much of a kick out of watching him or not, only a fool denies the rare combination of elements he was.



                    Originally posted by StopBlocking
                    You cannot reward a guy for failing to protect himself in the ring for the entirety of his career especially in today's age where safety in sports is most important.
                    GTFO with that ****. You don't judge what a man does to define himself in such ridiculously clinical, yet disingenuous, terms. Do you even feel boxing? You can try to sanitize two shirtless men beating each other in a ring, smooth off some of the rough edges, but it is, and always will be, what it is - organized brutality. Gatti's ring persona wasn't some contrived gimmick, it was a reflection of who he was, his failings calling upon his strengths to keep him on his feet and in the fight.



                    Originally posted by StopBlocking
                    Gatti had heart, but so does 98% of the men who step in the ring. Whenever someone passes people seem to make them much greater than they were when alive (2pac, Edwin Valero, many others).
                    So you think Audley Harrison has the heart/courage of an Arturo Gatti, huh?

                    I'm a Valero fan - am I saying he should go in a boxing HOF? No. So fuck off, ****.

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                    • Heeb
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                      #40
                      No, I don't think he should. Gatti's heart was something special, but I think the HOF should be for fighters who reached that level in the strength of their resume. I love Gatti, but I don't want to see him in the HOF.

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